Although hundreds of comments have already been written about it, only a few people actually had it under their hands. We're talking about none other than the new MacBook Pro, which is stirring up a lot of passion, and most who write about it criticize Apple for practically everything it has done. Only now, however, are the first comments from people who have actually touched the new Apple iron with the innovative Touch Bar.
One of the first "reviews", or views of the new 15-inch MacBook Pro, posted on the web Huffington Post Thomas Grove Carter, who works as an editor at Trim Editing, a company that specializes in editing expensive commercials, music videos and films. So Carter considers himself a professional user in terms of what he uses the computer for and what demands he has on it.
Carter uses Final Cut Pro X for his daily work, so he was able to test the new MacBook Pro to its full potential, including the Touch Bar, which is already ready for Apple's editing tool.
First thing, he's really fast. I've been using a MacBook Pro with the new version of FCP X, cutting 5K ProRes material all week and it's been running like clockwork. Regardless of what you think of its specification, the fact is that the software and hardware are so well integrated that in real-world use it will crush its much better specced Windows competitors.
The model I was using was powerful enough on the graphics side to drive two 5K displays, which is an insane number of pixels. So I'm wondering if I could use this machine to cut twenty-four hours a day without any problems, both in the office and on the go. The answer is probably yes. (…) This machine made the already very fast editing software even faster.
Although some people don't like the internals like the processors or RAM in the new MacBook Pros, the connectors are even more of a concern, as Apple has removed all of them and replaced them with four USB-C ports, compatible with Thunderbolt 3. Carter doesn't have a problem with that, because now he is said to be using an external SSD with USB-C and is otherwise removing ports as he did in 2012. At that time he also bought a new MacBook Pro, which lost DVD, FireWire 800 and Ethernet.
According to Carter, it's only a matter of time before everything adapts to the new connector. Until then, he will probably just replace the Thunderbolt to MiniDisplay converters on his desk, which he used for older monitors anyway, for a Thunderbolt 3 dock.
But Carter's experience with the Touch Bar is key, because he is one of the first to describe it from what he has actually experienced, and it is not just the assumptions that the Internet is full of. Carter, too, was skeptical of the new MacBook control at first, but as he got used to the touchpad above the keyboard, he came to like it.
The first pleasant surprise for me was the potential of sliders. They are slow, precise and fast. (…) The more I used the Touch Bar, the more I replaced certain keyboard shortcuts with it. Why would I use two- and multi-finger shortcuts when there's a single button right in front of me? And it's contextual. It changes based on what I'm doing. When I edit an image, it shows me the relevant cropping shortcuts. When I edit the subtitles it shows me the font, formatting and colors. All this without having to open an offer. It works, it's faster and more productive.
Carter sees the future of the Touch Bar, saying that this is all just the beginning before all developers adopt it. Within a week of working with the Touch Bar in Final Cut, the Touch Bar quickly became part of his workflow.
I've been playing with volume adjustments in #fcpx on the new #MacBookPro and #TouchBar
It's great! pic.twitter.com/g7tEnhMv5r
- Thomas Grove Carter (@thomasgcarter) November 2, 2016
Many professional users who use editing, graphic and other more advanced tools often object that they have no reason to replace dozens of keyboard shortcuts, which they have learned by heart over years of practice and work very quickly thanks to them, with a touch panel. Moreover, if they had to turn their eyes away from the work surface of the display. However, virtually none of them have tried the Touch Bar for more than a few minutes.
As Carter suggests, for example, the precision of the scrollbar can ultimately prove to be a very efficient matter, as this input can be much more accurate than moving the scrollbar with a cursor and a finger on a touchpad. More big reviews should probably appear before long, as Apple should already start delivering the first new models to customers.
It will be interesting to see how journalists and other reviewers approach the new MacBook Pros after a really big wave of negative reactions, but Thomas Carter has one very apt point to make:
This is a laptop. It's not an iMac. It's not a Mac Pro. Missing update these Macs should not influence the opinion of this Mac. Not clarifying the situation around other computers is a problem from Apple, but that's a completely different topic. Would we get so much backlash if the other machines were also updated? Probably not.
Carter is right that a lot of the backlash has included outrage that Apple has completely ditched loyal professional users, and the new MacBook Pros certainly aren't what should be enough for those users. Therefore, it will be interesting to see how the new machines will be demonstrated in real operation.
yo, review by an "objective" author who received a protective laptop, unavailable on the market
what else can he write other than praise
The photos from the iPhone were similar last time, and immediately after showing the photos from the 30-day trip of a professional around the world, there was an objective review of the quality of the photos
just apple PR BS (APRBS :)
you don't have to be condescending or biased just because he takes a more positive attitude than everyone else who hasn't even seen it :-)
well, because the model he tested was not yet shipped at the time he tested it (and I think it still isn't shipped yet), so make sure it's protective ;)
people already have their first macbook pro in their hands, and most of the people who ordered it first will receive it on Monday
i.e. and is it the one with the gay bar? and if we take into account that he tested it for a week, and that the article is not today's, that is, we will add an old article, were they still available back then? = no
:D You'll see the "real reviews" on Monday, so I don't know what you're talking about
sure, because there are so many people in the world that, as always, there will be someone who will like it and believe that it's great
I was just pointing out that the desire for an objective evaluation from a "professional" is paid PR
There are thousands of videos on YouTube about the new Aire and no one has received it as paid PR. Most people who bought it liked it. Who do you want a review from to believe it? Is there such a thing at all or are you just forcing your "paid PR"?
there is no new AIR.
I assume you mean macbook pro, without gaybar
I understand that someone may like it and I have nothing against it, if someone takes it as a replacement for Aira for the web, music, Excel and other office things then ok, in my opinion almost ideal for university students (I'm kidding, a lot of them need to use software that lets only on Windows, but most Apple users still use parallels or something similar, so Apple makes up for this deficiency with additional money and loss of performance, so I take it back, not for university students, but otherwise it's ok)
anyway, this thread is not about me saying that someone can't evaluate it positively. it's about the fact that this article was obviously condescending, and as condescending, it's not objective (because it evaluated the version with a gaybar, which simply wasn't (and maybe still isn't) available)
Strange, I lecture at a private university and most of the students with laptops use Macbooks during the lectures, I also work part-time at the Faculty of Architecture at CVUT and I don't meet many people with Apple there, most of the students have cheap Windows laptops priced around 20 thousand. A noticeable difference can be observed between students at a university-type private college and a public college where tuition fees are not paid.
Parallels can be used to a limited extent, although I myself preferred VirtualBox, and I do not virtualize Windows in it, but Ubuntu 16.04.
It doesn't want to forget that those who want Widle for CAD will prefer the bootcamp.
The reality is that 90% of all college students don't need any Windows software to study, when I lectured at universities in the US and Canada, Windows laptops were very rare to see among students.
hey, what are you going to present? sometimes a person who teaches at the university visits our office... he was never able to say what he teaches :)
History of economic thought, Development of economic theories, Project management, Microeconomics I. and II., History of architecture and historic preservation, Integration of buildings into the landscape, Economics of construction (seminars only)...
I look at specializations like a cow, but I'm probably spoiled by schools outside CR ;)
I have the feeling that you are also a dealer of Apple products. :-)
file troll, he shows signs of intelligence, but what he says is bullshit. this combination just doesn't work normally, he's not an idiot, he's a troll :)
I am privately running a small liquor store and other quality alcohol, and I am looking forward to the benefits of EET. :)
'cheap Windows laptops at prices around 20'
TV…
Ad: “This is a laptop. It's not an iMac. It's not a Mac Pro.”
Exactly. This is a replacement for a macbook air, not a macbook pro. Apple didn't do anything for professionals this year.
so the 2015 MB PRO was for professionals, but this one with 2x+ performance is no longer there? :D
2x performance too? Where did you get that?
With each OS X and with each other version of many programs, the demand for RAM capacity increases. The maximum 16GB RAM in macbooks is from 2011. The 13″ mbp from 2010 already had a maximum of 16GB. There have been two new versions of OS X since early 2015. Even in mba there is already a minimum of 8GB of RAM.
16GB is fine for now, if you want more, buy an iMac or Mac Pro.
If you need more, Apple doesn't offer anything.
What exactly do you need something like 16GB RAM for? I have 4GB on my Air and I have no problems :-). Anyway, I probably don't do anything extra complicated apart from converting the film. Sometimes games, but they go well, I don't play anything ultra-difficult.
On X code, virtualization, Safari, Chrome, Firefox, ... .
There was an article the other day about how it would turn out when someone messed everything up. Programs were compressed in RAM and swap on disk.
32GB of RAM would solve it, but Apple prefers to let the processor compress programs in RAM and store them in swap. That probably doesn't reduce battery life :-)
'On X code, virtualization, Safari, Chrome, Firefox, ...'
well, I'm a developer, but I'd really like to know what you're doing that you need to have these things open all of a sudden :)
I don't necessarily need to have everything running at once, but it's convenient to always have everything I use running. I don't want to run something every time I need it. Just run it once when the OS starts.
If it remained in RAM and the processor was not dedicated to compressing RAM and storing the disk in swap, I don't solve it. More energy is consumed during compression and swapping than when feeding 64GB of RAM.
Among other things, that person didn't do it on this Macbook :D Go buy that Win laptop with 32GB of ram and then write a report on how you do with the battery. Diki!
I don't develop on a MAC and I don't use virtualization either. I close everything I don't need just for the sake of transparency and security, so I really don't have this problem.
So, the most difficult thing is converting the movie and playing the games, but both are so rare that it doesn't even make sense for me to upgrade the HW.
On the contrary, I would say that MacOS is more tuned in terms of HW, so I need half of what Windows does.
By the way, I am not able to use 16GB on Windows either. The last time we ran out of RAM on them was when I launched the virtual machines, and I already have it on the remote server, so I personally don't see it as a problem for me.
I have a MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012) with 8GB, I do development in both XCode and C#/.NET (W10 virtualization via VMWare Fusion) and honestly, I don't have the slightest performance problem (I mean even the moments when I have it all running at once )…
Well, that's a bit masochistic :-) I have the same machine only two years younger, and I have a boot camp just because of VS. This is the only way I can use the entire computing power of the laptop. It really needs at least 16 GB for virtualization, and that is unfortunately complete nonsense for the price of the new PROs, so I'll stick with boot camp...
I agree. So far, I haven't gotten to the point where I would have any problems with virtualization (even 3 VMs at the same time), audio, video, graphics, etc., due to the "only" 16GB RAM of my MB Pro 13 (2014)... Similarly, 8GB was enough on the Air (max 2 VMs)... In the VM, application tests, training and SW presentations, of course not real production... ;)
That last test was really rubbish. "Just running" applications can easily fit twice as much into 16GB of RAM... Of course, virtualization is the reason (but I'll come across a max. 2C/4T CPU), perhaps coding too... However, I ask the question if such demanding systems (for example) virtualized you have to physically carry apps with you when they can run just fine in the corporate cloud, which I can connect to with anything... ;) ... PS 8GB (and more) RAM in a chassis as thin and "crowded" as the new MB Pro has, so far no one cools down. Maybe when LPDDR32 comes out… ;)
Therefore, most Windows 10 laptop users only have 4GB of RAM, and practically only Apple sells laptops with 16GB of RAM.
Even on Windows 10, there are a minimum of people with 16GB RAM laptops among users, many people don't even have that much on their desktop...
Another thing is that the Intel performance in the MBP is just right for 16GB, it makes sense to put a 32GB RAM kit in a 5K iMac, it makes sense to have a MacPro with 200GB RAM…. whereas an MBP with 32GBRAM would currently be ordered by only a tiny fraction of users.
No competing laptop offers a unibody all-metal construction or comparable battery life to the MBP, nor does any Windows laptop offer comparable sound to the MBP.
The MBP is a multimedia machine that complements the iMac and Mac Pro series, it has no ambition to replace them.
so of course with Lenovo you can put up to 64 gigabytes of RAM in your laptop, but don't care about the facts because you're trolling :]
otherwise, the unibody is simply structural - if the unibody gets damaged, you can replace it entirely. that's why unibody should not be used for cars and other things :), no matter what, someone may like it, but it's definitely not more durable
Otherwise, I agree that the Macbook is a multimedia machine. photos, videos, music. if a person needs connectivity, a decent keyboard, performance and a machine that prefers usability over appearance, look no further than the MacBook
No cars have a self-supporting body…k unibody… :)
Feel free to put 64GB of RAM in the Chinese scum, it will still be slower in the vast majority of all activities with Spyware10 than MBP15 2015 with OS X, just as the i7 4790K with GTX980Ti and Spyware10 is slower than MBP15 with OS X.
That's also why IBM buys Macbooks for employees, because they don't know what mistake they're making and they don't choose the Chinese scumbag X1 Carbon.
I see..
who needed more, Apple NEVER offered him anything :D You write here as if something has changed
That's right, it's the new Air, the absence of additional ports could be forgiven. But with the Pro board, it's a long shot.
Air replacement is Pro without Touch Bar with 2.0GHz Intel, bush is everything else Pro.
I wonder. If it's good or not, we'll see in half a year if others start using the touchbar :-)
Otherwise, yes, I'm disappointed with what they showed...
it will be useful, it does not matter if it will be implemented in the last applications, ... it does not have ergonomics
and only a fool would buy a laptop this year, when sometime around this time the first chips with 3D Xpoint are going to the production lines of HW manufacturers, I expect the first models to be available at CES in January and that will be a generational difference (personally, I'm waiting for either the Lenovo retroModel or the Lenovo x1carbon 5thgen :]
Are you a designer? I know, a stupid example, but if you were to move in the environment invented by Walldorf (SAP), you would find out that ergonomics has nothing to do with it (in my opinion, that system should have been dead by the end of the 20th century, but obviously it is still alive and ergonomics is even worse than it was at the beginning)…
Add notebook, yes, probably yes, I don't know, I don't know HW, on the other hand, after I switched to Apple, I don't deal with such basic things as processor, RAM, until I get tired of it and Apple gets tired of me... But yes, I would upgrade the MBP as soon as possible hasn't done in a while…
As for Lenovo, I don't know what your experience is, but in my area there are a lot of people who have problems with the warranty and with the fact that Lenovo products are a bit of a mess for them, and when I went to Alza a few times last year, they always dealt with Lenovo there and let them complain about their warranty service, so I don't know. Honestly, I don't care what you buy, I just sell as I bought, nothing more, nothing less, and not to be the only one behind iOvci, Apple sucks too. I have a friend who probably had a problem with every Apple product, but at least there was no problem with service...
that sap is a really bad example. SAP is an example of the fact that companies have invested so much in it both on the software side, as well as in training and workflow, that it is not easy to jump out of it or switch to something else
on the other hand, the gayBar is completely new and no one needs it, and since it is the primary control element, ergonomics is important.
well, mundane things... imagine that you have a disk on a PC, faster than ram, with a capacity 10 times larger than that disk. and theoretically for the same price as the disc. well, that's 3d Xpoint from intel and already produce it. but the file is used in games (the whole 3d level needs to be loaded in memory, i.e. no further reading, it could easily be a seemingly endless map :D, .. or, and this is more interesting, in AI)
and I've never had a problem with Lenovo under warranty. either you have it under warranty and it will be solved without a problem, or you don't have it under warranty and you will solve it in the service center for money. it was born from Apple and you can change the components as you wish :)
(I just have to admit that I was the most spoiled of the previous thinkpads for a waterproof keyboard (you pour a glass of water on it and it rubs the laptop through the mine), well, I bought this one for 2 years of thinkpad yoga, and lo and behold, it doesn't have these scratches. so I drowned it in the bath when I was watching a movie :D, replaced the board 4.500, but otherwise good :), no more yoga :]
It depends... There are still new ones switching to SAP, on the other hand in the 90's there wasn't much choice and a lot of companies got stuck on their knees... Eventually they switched to SAP for some reason, but the originals still stuck there, to some extent, they work. Let's forget the fact that there are companies that run mainframes in addition to SAP and synchronize with SAP... So I don't know, I see a certain parallel there...
No one needs a GayBar, but no one needed a tablet either until Apple sold it to them, I'm not saying it's a super awesome thing, I'm just saying let's wait, "history" will tell... I'm primarily not skeptical of any "new thing" no matter who comes up with it (perhaps I liked the last presentation of MS quite a bit and felt a little sorry that Apple is pretty stagnant...) There are a lot of people on the Internet who can say that it sucks, but when you ask them what they would do, they don't know... It reminds me of a colleague at one customer, he keeps cursing how Abap is outdated and useless, despite the fact that the concept of SAPGui has survived. Abap is as old as Methuselah, so even with this concept and language, interesting user things can be done, if only you want to overcome the boundaries... By this I mean, there is no art in cursing, the art is in coming up with a good alternative...
That's certainly interesting, but I'm saying that I would have been boiled over by this in high school, today I just look and say great, and what does "Storekeeper in a screwdriver shop" mean to me, even though in the background I think it's great, I don't care about it in the foreground, I primarily deal with the fluency of what I use, the stability and intuitiveness of the environment...
You see, I'll add your experience to the other side of the scales, even if I say in the context of objectivity that everything sucks, you're one of the first, in "my area", who won't allow Lenovo to...
Only a fool can really compare a new Macbook with a Lenovo, especially with a shunt like the X1 Carbon...
The quality of the Lenovo is appalling... the only one perhaps partially comparable is Dell's XPS13, but it has terrible sound and a rubberized plastic body in two pieces of aluminum and another piece of plastic from the bottom... really ugly.
Lenovo is for the poor and dumber undemanding users who just need Spyware10.
http://www.lenovo.com/us/en/thisisthinkpad/innovation/x1-carbon-our-best-business-ultrabook-so-far.shtml
It's terrible, only the basic FullHD X1 Carbon has a good battery life, the WXQHD panel version has a significantly lower life, the quality of the design is desperate, the design is appalling, the sound quality is significantly worse than the XPS13's flat sound system. It's a pain in the butt with many compromises and doesn't even offer additional mobility and performance for the professional. There is a lot about the ultra-slow ssd drives in the X1 Carbon in all the Lenovo forums... it's an overpriced shunt, with low build quality, low life and Spyware 10, I can understand that someone who uses a leaky and unstable W10 can get by with such a poor quality paperweight Lenovo.
The X1 Carbon is for two groups of users, those who are stupid and want a Chinese Lenovo thinking they will get IBM quality. And then for undemanding users who need a relatively cheap laptop even at the cost of many compromises such as very low battery life under load, poor display, low quality of design and cheap slow SSD drives, on which the Chinese saved perhaps the most, install a slow shunt, and passing it off as fast by parameters is a fraud.
For me, the quality and stroke of the keyboard and the sound are also important. I have not yet heard anything better than the new MBP (even the 2015 models have no competition) and the butterfly keyboard cannot be replaced by any alternative, especially not a Chinese scumbag.
Not to mention that many users have broken hinges on the X1 Carbon.
so with you, if you only cum on porn, I get the desire for sound. I'm working on it (but it's true that not much on NTB, I like myself and that's why I also have a desktop everywhere I work :)
and about the quality of processing, you can tell the testing team that they give it certificates for the American army and NASA
but that's another story, somewhere where a jerk like you doesn't appear
Put up with it, it's a piece of crap with a low lifespan and moral value, a fool will buy it, although the srágora in a year has minimal value and the bazaars are full of it, but why not, someone is enough with a scumbag from a Chinese Lenovo, someone else demands a better laptop with a better display, incomparably better sound and a long life, low wear and tear and a really good battery life, such a person simply will not buy a Chinese scumbag, you cannot compare Fobiia RS with leatherette and manual air conditioning and Mercedes-Benz class E, fourmatic, distronic plus. In the end, it always turns out that the operating costs of the E class are the lowest in the given segment. However, Lenovo is targeting a different kind of user, just like MladoBoleslavská Škoda, which makes cars for the poor and has a reputation as a car whose heated rear window is used to keep your hands from freezing when you push it.
I don't care what others buy :] I just enjoy it and I want to open the discussion here to others who have never visited the Lenovo website and asked what their advice offers
a lot of people discussing here complain that the new "pro" machines are not pro, but they are airbooks. Well, I have a piece of advice for these people, go take a look at the Lenovo website.
do you have competing models for airbooks (carbon x1)
– i7 – 3.4GHz
– win 7/10
– 14 inch 2560*1440 IPS panel
– 16 GB ram
– intel HD 520 graphics
- Backlit Keyboard
– fingerprint reader
– 1TB NVMe SSD
– trackpoint + touchpad
– integrated internet (LTE MODEM)
– weight 1.2 kilos
– microSD card slot, 3x USB 3, HDMI, MiniDisplayPort, OneLink+
- WiGig support (high-speed wifi docking station, docks all peripherals over the air)
– normal wifi in TB4.1
so you need a workstation (P70)
– Xeon E3- 3.9MHz (4 core)
– win 7/10
– 17 inch 3840*2160 IPS panel
– HW color calibration
– 64 GB ECC frame
– NVIDIA Quadro M5000M graphics
- Backlit Keyboard
– fingerprint reader
– RAID 0/1 option
– 2x 512GB NVMe SSD
– 1 TB of HDD storage
– smart card reader
- Wifi
– LTE modem
well, now I expect a discussion on the compatibility of macOS and their Apple HW, and that even with the old components that you sell, it runs faster, the next command over final cut pro, and finally ignoring any comparison over any other software that normal people use (programming, statistics software, research, photo, other video edits, applications demanding calculations, etc.)
Someone who appreciates the benefits of OS X will not buy a Chinese shunt with Spyware10, even if it costs half as much, and if you don't open his eyes, you will be embarrassed to the maximum, just like with the fraudulent speed of the SSD drives in the X1 Carbon... Lenovo will not defend lying in the specifications...
Sheep are not stupid, they know what they are choosing and why, Spyware10 cannot currently be considered competitive in the category of MBP users, and most of those who complain in the discussions will not buy an MBP anyway, and even if it is so basic with 8 GB of RAM, it is still in combined with the fastest SSD on the market, a better configuration than 99% of laptops sold with Spyware10.
Aha
I use an iMac, Macbook, iPad, iPhone and Watch connection. That's why I will never look again, when replacing one of the devices with another manufacturer, precisely because of the uniqueness that this connection offers me. I would also like to mention that if I have any problem with anything working I will call support and get a solution to the problem for free. And I would also mention that I have never understood the Microsoft user experience and after trying the Apple experience I would never go back. Otherwise, I ramble on about a lot of things, but that's a natural development.
j, I have nothing against it, you are one of those 10% of users who are constantly declining in favor of Microsoft
I hope it will last you a long time
I'm probably stubborn... I don't understand the point..
I am afraid that it will take longer than a year and a half, because the touchforce display on the iPhone began to gain traction after a year and so far the file is on the sidelines.
The estimate was inflated. I personally also see a blind branch in the touchbar, but I've seen that several times in the past as well (tablets, for example), so since then I prefer to wait for the market.
A lot of new technologies are doomed just because the developers don't adopt and use the function, and in some cases it's a huge shame.
As for the touchbar, I find it interesting, especially for multimedia (rewinding, tagging, etc.). However, personally, I would almost expect it to be on the entire keyboard and localization of the keyboard to different languages will be as simple as it should be on the iPad. Currently, the technology is terribly expensive, because if it costs 10k, it really means that it is only for professionals, or for someone who has seen the use of a MAC again.
I agree, that is, except for the entire touch screen, I need to feel the pressure under my fingers, the haptic response seems strange to me... I now have an iPhone 7 and like a phone, nothing extra, but I will endure, but I really can't imagine it with a keyboard...
I don't have real experience with the touch keyboard, and I probably won't, but it should be possible to make small displays for classic keyboards ;-).
..apart from classic topics, doesn't anyone find it strange that in all the presentation videos people have their hands in the air, i.e. that the large touchpad practically made it impossible to rest the palm while typing on the keyboard?
How does the touchpad behave when the palm is placed on it, is it somehow wiped by software so that there are no reactions?
j the touchpad turns off when it detects palms. but the keyboard doesn't turn off before when gaybar is used :D
And why didn't they prefer to make a touch screen track pad, that would make more sense. The gaybar seems ergonomically weird at first glance, but maybe I'm wrong. There are already "experts" in IT as in politics..
“This is a laptop. It's not an iMac. It's not a Mac Pro.” — well, exactly, so I'd expect mobility, which a backpack full of reductions doesn't quite deliver. It would have been enough if they had added one USB-C on each side to last year's - sorry the year before - MBP with all its advantages and it would have been fine, right? Functionality would be expanded, not reduced. Regarding the gay bar - when I look at my MBP right in front of me and I would like such a control element there, I can't think of a better place than on the hinge of the display - there is an absolutely ideal area for it, and it would also be visible (which in principle must be) also according to the inclination of the diple. The keyboard would not suffer and the functionality would again be expanded, not reduced. I don't care how it would be solved technically and if it would fit in there at the "depth", that is already a task for the masters from one of the so-called largest technology companies.
a backpack full of reductions? you froze somewhere in 1999 didn't you? today, the USB-C dock is the size of a slightly larger credit card and will replace most commonly used items. The only additional problem is the ethernet, but this is gradually being eliminated in all ultrabooks due to the thickness.
link please to some good dock
https://www.alza.cz/akasa-usb-type-c-to-hdmi-d4559173.htm?o=15
https://www.alza.cz/hyper-usb-type-c-hub-zlaty-d4257110.htm?o=1
"MBP added one USB-C on each side with all its benefits and that would be cool, wouldn't it?"
which these two can do and for very little money. if you want a laptop with dozens of ports, you can't avoid a classic dock for 5k+ anyway, and it doesn't matter what brand you choose.
And please don't say that this isn't a "good dock". For the situation mentioned, when I would have to carry a bunch of adapters, this is clearly enough, if you look at other options, it is also enough for home docking to connect a monitor, keyboard, etc., so from a general point of view, a dock with classic USB and HDMI should be enough. Moreover, nowadays a lot of things are dragged through the air anyway, especially with laptops (keyboard/mouse/printer...and the trackpad from the macbook cannot be replaced with a mouse anyway).
Everyone comes up with hypothetical situations that "what if once in a lifetime I need a disaster..." but I'm just glad they cut out such a situation. And carrying one "dock" with a classic usb and HDMI is quite a negligible restriction on the fact that usb c should be expanded. especially when older macbooks only had thunderbolt, so almost every mac owner carried one adapter...
so it's like shit. That's the point - do you need any ports or want more? Buy another box for your 'state of the art' laptop for 7 liters.
if for my work, in 2016, I need 10 or more ports, I simply won't buy this one. It's definitely stupid to line up a list of ports that my future laptop should have, then choose one that doesn't have them and berate in the discussions how stupid the manufacturer is because it couldn't bear blue from the sky. a laptop should be light, last on a battery and compact, if it is to be a work tool then it should have sufficient performance (which it has) and the possibility of expansion (4 USB-Cs give huge expansion possibilities) and apple has probably calculated very well that more people will buy it if it makes it lighter than adding a serial port.
And I don't know an "expert" who would rely only on integrated ports. It either has a dock on the table or some kind of hub, or it only works on the couch. The idea of a programmer coming to work and starting to push one cable after another into the macbook is really ridiculous. And if a user really needs a soaked machine, he won't buy a macbook pro anyway.
And please write to me which ports you use so often that it would be a problem to carry the one single adapter to USB-C. I can only think of USB A and hdmi. Except for VGA, but that's a bit archaic solution. There is still an ethernet connector left, and it is removed by all manufacturers due to its size. And although it is a "Pro", I dare to say that the vast majority of sales are made by the mainstream, who appreciate the lower weight rather than the piles of connectors that they use once a year. There were the same complaints when the DVD drive was removed, and today even a dog won't bark at it
Specifically, I'm talking about USB-A connectors. In the past, Apple has already removed things that it knew for sure were coming to an end - FDD, CDROM, or ethernet don't interest me.
But to remove all USB-A connectors from a laptop these days, saying that the future is in USB-C, is total bullshit and ignorance. They could only put their awesome lightning right there
At the time when Apple was removing the PS2, serial, FDD and CDROM it was not over yet and he was one of the very first to do so. It was way ahead of its time when it came to introducing USB A. So the situation is still the same – we have a universal solution that replaces the old interface, but no one wants to give up the old one. And then someone swings by (now Apple again) and just does it. Users will curse for two years and then it will pass because they will adapt and thanks to this step, manufacturers will stop ignoring USB C (which they are doing now, they only started to take it into account with the arrival of the small macbook, until then you couldn't buy anything with USB C)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-59XHKt9xU
lol
USB-C
It reminds me of an anus. A small group of people are trying to force us to think that this is the coolest hole available and that absolutely anything can be inserted into it. And that it's actually normal.
In the future, that opening will be great, because people will stick different things in there and cheer with happiness. But offering it today as the only opening with the fact that the old openings are outdated and no one actually wants to push anything there is nonsense.
well, they are historically in people's imaginations as an innovative company.
he tries to preserve this image at all costs
new products must therefore be innovative
well, because they didn't come up with anything. so they had to pay tribute to at least something
that something is an ergonomically pointless gaybar, and usb-c => innovation
Well, that's it. If it continues like this, I wonder how long people will see it.
so they can gradually recognize that they are not innovative, but find another reason to stay. it's typically osX, that windows (typically compare to a 15-year-old version) are shit and that's the only reason why they won't pass and that's enough.
then they start saying that there is a great ecosystem there, that they have iPhones, headphones, time machines, etc. (i.e., thanks to Apple's incompatibilities, they are closed and they take it as a plus instead of a disadvantage :D
in the end, they can say that apple is fashionable because it is such a prestigious product only for the few % who can afford it (which is funny, because the iphone is the most mainstream and there is no way to talk about any uniqueness)
someone can flaunt the design, and then put the phone in a package for 2 kilos so that the stupidly designed phone (which can be scratched so easily) doesn't get scratched, and that completely ruins the design
...one OT, I just updated my iphone5 to the new os 10 or so. the font is smaller everywhere. and the preview of the album, as it used to fit on my display, now it doesn't fit on my display and I have to scroll. so I say to myself. is apple so stupid that it can't design 3 different versions of the GUI size, or is it an intention to make me think that I have a small display and I need a newer phone with a larger display where the text will AGAIN be as perceptible as before the OS update, and where I can see the photo preview AGAIN without having to scroll like before the OS update... well, it's funny. I don't know, I don't know, it's either intentional or careless, and I don't know which of these two options is better for Apple :)
Well, I just don't understand why they try so hard to come up with something uniquely innovative every year. I understand that people expect that, but if they really preferred to put the latest CPU advice there, add memory and generally listen to the customer's requirements (ok, who, at least according to Jobs and Cook, don't really know what they want), they would have done better.
An individual can curse as much as he wants, but if people who have been using Apple for x years suddenly claim that it has stopped being fun, then something is generally wrong somewhere, that...
If you re-read what you wrote, you will find a lot of answers for yourself :-)
It's enough that there is no alternative to Apple among laptops, no Windows laptop has an all-metal unibody construction, comparable battery life, comparable sound..., Windows still can't cope with hidpi panels...
On your desktop you can make a hackintosh or simply build a computationally powerful and silent desktop with Linux, despite all the advantages of Linux (Ubuntu is a blessing compared to Windows10) simply Linux can easily replace anything with Spyware10, if only because unlike Spyware10 it can hidpi panels... but OS X simply cannot replace Ubuntu. On the desktop, I'd settle for Ububtu, it's fast, it can be skinned on OS X, maybe I'd prefer Kubuntu or some other user interface, stability and user experience compared to Spyware10 is at an excellent level for Linux, the logic of settings and controls are also , but no linux can match the simplicity and friendliness of OS X yet.
It smacks a bit of a cargo-cult in the style of "Jobs was not afraid and gave it away, so we will do it too". But no one deals with the consequences, not even the vision. Jobs removed the unnecessary, this Apple is trying to impose something new on us. I don't recall him ever succeeding.
ADB - did not stick
FireWire - didn't catch on
Thunderbolt - didn't stick
Display port (Apple version) - did not attach
MBPro is Pro because professionals want it, who like to connect their other professional devices to it. Metro ears and fiflen can get by with a Macbook - it's a product for a handbag. They hit it well with this one, but it's a misstep with Pro. The only thing Apple is playing into is that it has made us hostage. I wondered if Apple was preparing to sell off Lenovo's Macbook division, but a colleague corrected me that the more likely buyer would be Mattel.
you are not his hostage, you are his chick! cook's whore
but that's how every apple fan likes it when apple fucks him
Big trackpad! For me, paradoxically, this is not solved at all. It is so big that it cannot be used for me. the small ones, as far as they are now, are perfect, you don't need to cross your palm, the big ones I have to deal with sliding the same way as with a large phone. it really irritated me at work. I edited photos and cut short jingles. it really is uncomfortably large. I recommend that everyone try it before buying, I haven't grown to like the big trackpad in 6 days.
As for the 32 GB RAM and consumption… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axZBbgfEZf0
*consumption :D lol
Jäger and becher – jablickar
First name, jpm - smartmania
nitro.doubt – letemsvetem
I forgot some nickname - mobilmania
that's a massacre... for this person to write hundreds of comments in A4 format - and he was some kind of sucker at the university :D only at the psychiatric one...
I believe in everything perfectly! That using a slider on APPLU(!) is better than not using it on APPLU(!) …. I just believe it! It's a matter of habit. Of course, it's a bummer that Apple users have lost the upper row of PHYSICAL keys, which simply cannot be replaced with touch keys, but whatever...
Anyway, this is a comparison of the old apple with the new apple, which brings a two-centimeter touch bar .... of course, we can't compare it to things like surface pro or even surfbook, which are full touch, have wacom pens, are lighter, have higher endurance, double the performance etc for the same price ….. but yes – in the apple world – the new macbook pro, aka the one-eyed king:o))))
Otherwise, I'm still quite amazed by the video editing SW... why does everyone take it as some interesting thing for performance comparison? So I only have experience with Windows, I've never had Apple, so it might be different there (and the fact that I haven't seen a Macbook without Windows anywhere, so there might be something to it :). But simply on Windows, let's say some adobe premiere (which is probably such a general standard), it works with keyframes and cannon effects with the help of the GPU, so even on an atom with 2GB of ram there is no problem (the final rendering will need to be 50x slower than on an i7, yes , but no one is interested, does it run on the server or overnight?). So if it's not a problem on a new MacBook Pro for 100k with an i7, it doesn't surprise me, even if it's Apple...