Daniel Hruska After release iOS 8 to the public, apple devices have gained a lot of new features. However, some current functions have also undergone changes – one of them is the native Pictures application. The new arrangement of content caused some users a bit of embarrassment and confusion. Let's take a closer look at the changes and clarify the situation in iOS 8.
We've edited the original article to further elaborate and describe the design changes in the Pictures app that have caused a lot of questions and confusion for many users.
New organization: Years, Collections, Moments
The folder has disappeared Camera (Camera Roll). She was here with us since 2007 and now she is gone. Until now, all photos or images saved from other applications were saved here. It was this change that probably caused the most confusion for long-term users. First of all, there is nothing to worry about - the photos have not disappeared, you still have them on your device.
Closest to folder Camera coming up with the content in the Images tab. Here you can move seamlessly between years, collections and moments. Everything is automatically sorted by the system according to the location and time the photos were taken. Anyone who needs to find photos relative to each other without any effort will use the Pictures tab very often, especially if they own a 64GB (or newly 128GB) iPhone loaded with photos.
Last added/deleted
In addition to the automatically organized Pictures tab, you can also find Albums in the application. In them, photos are automatically added to the album Last added, but at the same time you can create any custom album, name it and add photos from the library to it as you like. Album Last added however, the display of images most closely resembles the original folder Camera with the difference that you won't find all the photos taken in it, but only those taken in the last month. To view older photos and images, you need to switch to the Images tab, or create your own album and manually add photos to it.
At the same time, Apple added an automatically generated album Last deleted – instead, it collects all the photos you deleted from the device in the last month. A countdown is set for each, which indicates how long it will take for the given photo to be deleted for good. You always have one month to return the deleted photo back to the library.
Integrated Photo Stream
The changes in the organization described above are relatively simple to adopt and logical. However, Apple confused users the most with the integration of Photo Stream, but even this step turns out to be logical in the end. If you have activated Photo Stream for synchronizing photos across devices, you will no longer find a dedicated folder for these photos on your iOS 8 device. Apple now synchronizes everything automatically and adds the images directly to the album Last added and also to Years, Collections and Moments.
The result is that you, as a user, do not decide which photos are synchronized, how and where. If everything is working correctly, on every device where Photo Stream is turned on, you will find the matching libraries and the current pictures you just took. If you disable Photo Stream, photos taken on the other device will be deleted on each device, but still remain on the original iPhone/iPad.
The big advantage in the integration of Photo Stream and the fact that Apple is trying to erase the difference between local and shared photos is in the elimination of duplicate content. In iOS 7, you had photos on the one hand in a folder Camera and subsequently duplicated in the folder Photo Stream, which was then shared to other devices. Now you always have only one version of your photo on your iPhone or iPad, and you'll find the same version on other devices.
Sharing photos on iCloud
The middle tab in the Pictures app in iOS 8 is called Shared and hides the iCloud Photo Sharing feature underneath. However, this is not Photo Stream, as some users thought after installing the new operating system, but real photo sharing between friends and family. Just like Photo Stream, you can activate this function in Settings > Pictures and Camera > Sharing photos on iCloud (alternative path Settings > iCloud > Photos). Then press the plus button to create a shared album, select the contacts you want to send the images to, and finally select the photos themselves.
Subsequently, you and other recipients, if you allow them, can add more pictures to the shared album, and you can also "invite" other users. You can also set a notification that will appear if someone tags or comments on one of the shared photos. The classic system menu for sharing or saving works for each photo. If necessary, you can delete the entire shared album with a single button, which will disappear from your and all subscribers' iPhones/iPads, but the photos themselves will remain in your library.
Customization of third-party applications
While you've already gotten used to the new way of organizing photos and how Photo Stream works in iOS 8, it's still a problem for many third-party apps. They continue to count on the folder as the main place where all photos are stored Camera (Camera Roll), which is, however, replaced by a folder in iOS 8 Last added. As a result, this means that, for example, the Instagram, Twitter or Facebook applications are currently unable to reach for a photo older than 30 days. You can get around this limitation by creating your own album, to which you can then add photos, however old, but this should only be a temporary solution and the developers will respond to the changes in iOS 8 as quickly as possible.
If I want to add an older photo to e.g. WhatsUp and send it, it is not possible, because I only get the option to choose from albums where the album was not last added.
and the same for messenger
It's the same with Evernote. It's probably a problem with all Neapolitan applications that assume that the camera roll exists.
The only option is to add the photo to favorites and then remove it from the favorites folder and send it.
I'm not saying it's great, but it can be done the other way around in the case of these applications – go into Photos and find the relevant photo there and select Evernote via the share button (arrow from the cube). The advantage of iOS8 is that I can pull e.g. evernote to first place via More behind the list of applications.
it will be like that soon, I can't even download a photo from Copy to my mobile!!! ..that I downloaded the battle eight at all, I'll get rid of the iPhone forever as soon as possible, I'm already starting to have a lot of teeth!!!!
I also have an item with all the photos there
The new arrangement is pointless. Another thing that has disappeared is the Photo Stream album. On IOS 8, there is no way to manage Photo Stream.
Well, there is "Shared" and it should be the same as Photostream.
Well, I don't have anything like that. I only have Recently Added, Recently Deleted and Panoramas. I don't use shared photo streams. I just can't see my photo stream anywhere.
I have Photos, Shared and Albums at the very bottom. So Shared is PhotoStream.
I don't have Shared there, only the other two. Shared is related to the iCloud Photo Sharing configuration option. Photo stream has no effect on this.
settings, icloud, photos and I only have the last option iCloud Photo Sharing turned on. I have the rest turned off.
I don't think Shared is a photostream. It's only shared in the cloud. If I take a photo on another device and have photostream turned on, the photo appears in recently added and not in Shared
I'm confused. I originally thought that Camera and Steam merged. Good idea. However, if photos are deleted after 30 days, applications will have trouble finding older photos.
Exactly. Furthermore, a person does not know which photo he took from which device, and thus does not know which photos he can edit without having to import them into the device. I also don't know which photos will be deleted after 30 days
The article that I thought would get me into trouble did the exact opposite.
I also thought that Camera roll + Photostream = last added, but now I don't understand anything at all. Due to the impossibility of looking into the cloud, I do not know what is already recorded, I do not know what is in the iPhone. It's one big chaos that no one has explained to me yet.
So it's actually amazing that when I want to find out what I took pictures of before 30 days ago with my iPhone, I have no chance to find out, because the confusing Pictures tab contains everything (in my opinion, a mess). Last deleted pissed me off too, but at least I can show people "these are the photos I don't want that are taking up my space".
Now I don't even know what I have in Fotostream and what in iPhone. Is that also so great? It's crazy! They have to return it or it's unbelievably total chaos! At the same time, Apple has always been in good order, and now no one knows where it actually has anything.
I see it exactly the same... I have no idea what's on the phone, what's on the cloud, etc... when they showed the collections in iOS7 fine, whoever wants to use it, I had them turned off and used events from the mac. But now the inability to distinguish between Cloud and storage is a big problem. I'm not even talking about the fact that we can have photos that we don't want anyone to see.
The biggest icing on the cake is that in order to know which photos are on Photostream, I have to look in iPhoto on Mac for that....
no, it's much easier :) "just" click on each photo and edit - those that can be edited are taken by the given device, those that must first be duplicated and then edited are from the cloud. that's a mistake, it's not enough to save and edit the photo, but I have to duplicate it. if this doesn't fix it, I'll probably solve it by uploading all the photos from the Pictures folder to the cloud and then deleting them, so I should be sure that they're backed up in the cloud... maybe
I don't understand this very well either, I somehow understood from the Keynote that the "iCloud" Album will be there and I know that if I modify something, the modification will be displayed on all my devices. it doesn't work like that and do I have to duplicate the photos? o_O
Well, then it doesn't work like that. Example: I take a photo with an iPhone ios7. In a moment, ios8 is in pictures on the iPad. Then great. Edit photo on iPhone. It doesn't matter if it's in the photostream or the camera. The saved photo is saved in the camera on the iPhone, but it is not uploaded to the cloud
On the contrary, it seems better organized than having everything in one and then scrolling for 5 minutes before I find the photo I want. Now I can take better photos from vacations and the like, and it is easier to search among the photos by the date they were taken.
Otherwise, you can delete the photos immediately, mark all of them in that folder and have them deleted immediately.
The problem with iOS8 is that if I want to keep a photo only on the iPhone and I don't want it to be on the iPad at the same time, it is no longer possible. Driv had to delete it from Photostream and it remained only in the iPhone. Here everything is shared between devices. The new arrangement does not suit me at all..
I solved the confusion and fear of losing photos by installing Onedrive, where I have 30GB of free space and know that I will always have access to the photos without them taking up memory on my phone. Apple failed to do this at all.
While reading the discussion, I can only think of one thing... Do you have iCloud Drive turned on? How will it work with him?
It seems to me that this is not a definitive solution. We're halfway there now.
I have iCloud Drive turned on and I don't see a single difference?
I meant working together with Yosemite. I could easily be wrong. I am going by what I understood from the keynote. Or am I just an optimist.
I pray you are right…
This will be the problem…
http://www.macrumors.com/2014/09/12/apple-demotes-icloud-photo-library-beta/
As I read the comments about everything, I'm finally glad that I didn't install iOS 8 on my phone :D. I really prefer to stick with the old way: I take a picture, the photo is under the Pictures icon, and if I don't like it, I delete it. And not such useless magic :D
Can someone explain to me where My Photostream has disappeared and where I can find photos from it, or how can i manage them in iphone with ios 8.0?? I thought finding this collection wouldn't be a problem, but..
Personally, in connection with Pictures, it bothers me that iPhoto, which I used to edit photos and whose function the editor in Pictures does not fully replace, has disappeared...
It's even dumber than before.
Oh no. IBooks has also changed towards obscurity. Since the introduction of iOS7, a simple and easy-to-understand system has become a confusing mess :-(
In my opinion, the unification is super kror, because when I wanted to delete a photo before, I had to delete it in three places, including iPhoto on Mac.
The fact that it now duplicates the photo is just a temporary state of Yosemite, I thought.
The fact that you cannot see older photos for other applications is only a temporary condition until the developers update their applications.
The only thing that bothers me is the last deleted folder, what is it for? When I delete photos, I know 100% that I won't want them anymore.
working with photos is getting worse and worse. In addition, when you take photos with an iPad and an iPhone, it's just a mess. You don't know what is cloud and what is not... sorting by location/time also does not work like in all programs (picaso, zoner). Unfortunately, I have to say that OneDrive from Microsoft is far behind Apple in its functionality. So I use OneDrive...
I wouldn't mind it so much, life is a change, but I only have a 16GB iPhone model, so I always deleted the Camera folder completely after downloading photos to PhotoStream, so I didn't have duplicate photos on my phones and on the stream. Now I don't quite understand where the photo data is actually stored... has anyone figured it out yet?
It's quite a mess. I have to give a definite plus to the new options for editing photos directly in the Photos application, in any case, I don't understand why the edits are not automatically reflected in the photo stream. I edit on the iPhone, but then I look at the original photos on the iPad. Don't know what to do with it?
It will fix it only if you turn on iCloud Drive... which Apple more or less forces you to buy their cloud storage... and as I find out, even the 20GB is not enough... I record 15 minutes of video in fullhd and I have 3GB left... plus a backup of 2 devices ... and I'm almost gone with 20gb...
I have iCloud drive turned on and when I edit something on the iPhone, the iPad only shows me the original photo. and in addition, if I want to edit a photo on the iPad that I took on an iPhone, I have to duplicate the photo...
Strange that I tried it yesterday and I edited it normally on the iphone and it edited on the ipad for a while... Although it took about 20 seconds, but it was there.
But, of course, I edited her pictures through the default application. Not via snapseed. Where I will have to wait until an update is released that will be able to do this.
Yes, me too via Pictures :-/ so then I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
It's also possible because I had the beta from the beginning and I activated that iCloud drive among the first ... + I bought a 20GB subscription ... Maybe these are small factors that are now in beta testing of the iCloud drive until Yosemite comes the main…
I know that Apple has delayed the release of iCloud Photo Library, so hopefully this will be resolved after that.
Can someone explain to me the difference between photo stream and iCloud photo library?? It feels like exactly the same thing to me…
Description in settings: iCloud library: Automatically send photos to all devices…..
My photo stream: new photos automatically sent to all devices…
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I am asking for help updating to iOS8 and then synchronizing on the PC. I found photos in the images that I took a long time ago and I want to delete them, but somehow it doesn't work on my iPhone 5. I can only duplicate it to a new album, but I can't delete these photos even if I connect them iPhone to PC are not in the DCIM folder and take up 2GB :( . I already have them backed up somewhere on the PC. I don't use photostream or iCloud for photos, do you know how to delete them or is it some kind of bug, has anyone encountered this???? ???
Can someone tell me where I can delete the photos taken and saved on the iOS8 device so that I can free up the device's memory, but not lose the same photos in iCloud.
Hi, I have the same problem as Pavel, that is, where should I delete photos from my iPhone to free up memory on the device, while keeping the photos on the cloud (as they used to stay in Stream)?
despite the explanation, I still don't understand how it works :) I restored iPad and Phone to factory settings and I'm trying. So far, he is behaving quite strangely. They can stream photos from iPad to iPhone, but not the other way around, and I've been waiting for an hour! I still don't understand why photos taken with one ID cannot be edited (only deleted) on my different ID devices, unfortunately some work and some don't... so I don't know what the internal logic is. They are a bit desperate from Apple. For now I am still testing the cooperation on my devices because I want to find out how it works. A huge minus is that I can't get to the data (photos) via the web. Just like the golden OneDrive. And maybe it will be a reason to return to Windows Phone.
another thing that doesn't work: I take a picture of something with my iPhone, it is also uploaded to my iPad. So I delete it, but it doesn't delete it on my iPhone. Absolute debilitation... :(
It will be moved to the last deleted folder and it will remain there for 30 days, so if you want to see the change on the iPhone, you need to delete this folder as well.
I have such an incredible chaos in my photos that I feel like I'm going back to a movie. I'm trying to understand that if I take a photo on the iPhone, it doesn't appear the next day on the iPad, but only later on the Mac. The test photo on the iPad does not appear immediately on the Mac and certainly not on the iPhone. I have photostreams turned on on all three devices and everything is connected to WiFi. Could someone please make a Fotostream manual for obtuse Apple device customers/users? I would love to read it.
I would like to ask why even in IOS8 it is not possible to send photos from the album, e.g. via Viber... only messages, mail, FB, etc. are offered....
Did you solve it somehow? It annoys me too.
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didn't solve it.. no one gave any advice.. :-(