Michal Ždanský In October of this year, Apple introduced new versions of the iMac and Mac mini computers. In addition to various design improvements, he introduced an upgraded drive under the name Fusion Drive. This hybrid drive combines the best of both types of hard drives – the speed of SSD and the large capacity of classic drives at an affordable price. However, as it turns out, the Fusion Drive is actually just a marketing ploy to get customers to pay nearly three times as much for a regular SSD. Fusion Drive not just one drive, but two drives that appear as one in the system. The resulting effect is just the software magic that comes with every Mountain Lion installation.
Apple calls the Fusion Drive a breakthrough in drive technology. In fact, Intel came up with this concept and the final solution several years earlier. The solution was called Smart Response Technology, and it was software that provided the layering of data that Fusion Drive is based on. Apple just "borrowed" this concept, added a few superlatives and a little media massage, and here we have a technological breakthrough. The only real breakthrough is bringing the technology to the wider public.
No special hardware is needed to create a Fusion Drive, just a regular SSD drive (Apple uses a 128 GB version) and a standard hard drive, where in the case of the Fusion Drive, you can use the one included in the basic equipment of Macs, with 5 rpm a minute. The rest is taken care of by the operating system, which cleverly moves data between disks - according to the frequency of use. Thanks to this, it is even possible to create your own Fusion Drive, just have two drives connected to the computer and the data layering function can then be activated with a few commands in Terminal.
However, there is one catch. Since the first MacBook with retina display, Apple has introduced a proprietary SATA connector, but it does not bring any benefit, such as higher throughput. In fact, this is a standard mSATA connector with a slightly modified shape, the sole purpose of which is to prevent users from using a drive from third-party manufacturers. If you want a better drive, you have to buy it directly from Apple, obviously at a significantly higher price.
And while an adequate 128 GB SSD disk would cost roughly 2, or a maximum of 500 CZK, Apple demands 3 CZK for it under the Fusion Drive brand. For a virtually identical product. But it doesn't end there. The Fusion Drive is not available as an add-on to the lowest-end iMac or Mac mini, you must purchase an upgraded model to be able to purchase this "breakthrough in technology". The last cherry on top of the disc is the fact that Apple in the new Macs basically offers a disc with only 000 revolutions per minute, which replaced the 6 RPM disc. Low-speed discs are important in notebooks, thanks to their lower energy consumption and slightly lower noise levels. For desktops, however, a slow drive lacks any justification and forces users to purchase a Fusion Drive.
Apple products have never been among the cheapest, not for nothing they are referred to as premium, especially when it comes to computers. However, for the higher price, you were guaranteed top quality and workmanship. However, this "move" with disks is only a way to extract as much money as possible from loyal customers by making them pay several times over for regular goods without the possibility of an alternative. Although I like Apple, I consider the above "magic" with disks to be completely shameless and a scam to the user.
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I don't understand this article, but everywhere I've read about it so far, it was clear to everyone that it's two discs :) the technology is old, they managed to do it in such a way that you don't have to worry about it... that's all...
The article isn't really about the Fusion Drive being two drives…
sorry, but this article just didn't work.. In addition, the same thing can be written "more peace". We all know here that apple has a high margin and that it already borrows and adapts a lot of technologies invented long ago. But what should it be? If he doesn't do it, others will. The only difference is that someone buys it from Apple.
That's some pretty crap too... I guess you buy a lot of lifestyle magazines, huh?
The main thing is that the above-responding Martin (the most frequent contributor to this discussion) presents only logical and meaningful arguments….
Well, I don't know, but if you can take two sentences out of context and let the others float, then you are an artist. Michal clearly describes how the Apple customer is unknowingly pushed to invest in a more expensive upgrade. To an upgrade that does not even remotely match the prices in real life. Look how much apple wants for 16GB of RAM. Theoretically, if you buy them, they will cost you 2500-3000, brother, and you are still able to sell the 8GB that was there. Whereas Apple will expand your 8GB to 16GB and charge several times the price.
US prices:
Upgrade from 8GB to 16GB + CZK 5200
price for 2x4GB in store 995 CZK
i.e. only 5.2 times more expensive...
European prices will be the same
If this seems kosher to you, then I don't know where the mistake happened. Of course, everything is a matter of supply and demand, and one should take this into account before embarking on this.
The possibility of disk and ram upgrade is gradually being pushed out of all Apple products. I remember upgrading my mac mini and happily using it for the next two years. Fortunately, at least the 27″ iMac has retained the option of customer-replaceable RAM.
So read the article once more 2x 3x and maybe you will understand Michal :-)
excellently written … kudos to the author
Mein got, after all, Fusion Drive is a software thing O_O the last 3 paragraphs make absolutely no sense, they are talking about FD as a hard drive, while the first half of the article correctly describes it as a Mountain Lion feature, if there is both SSD and HDD inside... the author of the article in half he fell asleep in the article and is talking crap ;)
buy glasses and read again…
I like an impartial and objective view of things. Despite the fact that most of us are Apple fans, it's okay to call a spade a spade... I agree on all points and I really regret this approach of Apple.
I disagree, in my opinion typically Apple and fair. Apple is not a super inventor, in most cases it just takes over something that already exists, but uses it in such a way that it's just perfect. Personally, I think that the Fusion Disk solution is great, of course you can put an SSD instead of the basic disk in the MacBook Pro and a large classic disk instead of the optical drive, but then you have to decide what data to have on the fast SSD as well as on the large disk, etc. If this Apple I do it within the OS itself, and the 2 disks appear as one for the user, I'd like to pay extra for that. Why not?
Because it's about desktops, bro, it's already been mentioned here. And in those they stuffed only discs with 5400 rpm and you can't work on that! Buy some glasses and read the article again! If you wanted to work on it regularly, you can only get an FD from Apple. Overpriced. And here it's not about the fact that it's a genius Apple worth paying extra for, as it used to be. They did the horror of beautifying the desktop, but limiting performance to force customers to pay extra for the already outrageously expensive iMac, for example. So: the iMac is nicer, the performance is lower (as far as the disk is concerned), but the price is SIGNIFICANTLY higher even without FD. That's kind of out of Apple's long-standing "policy."
And don't you think that the other components and technology make the price and not just some disk? Otherwise, I agree and I don't understand why there is 5400. Could it be because of the energy demand and the heat generated? But if FD uses 7200 then it's an odd opinion.
wtf? Did you seriously think that "Fusion disk" is just one disk that combines HDD and SSD? I'm sorry, but you've fallen a lot for me. I think that Apple explained it at the keynote, how it will work, even if he didn't explain it - after all, it's completely obvious.
The second thing: You are right that solutions from other companies have been on the market for several (even) years. The problem is that the solutions from other companies work significantly worse and sometimes on a slightly different principle. E.g. only the OS is on the 32GB SSD. Apple finally got it to the stage where it works and is usable.
The third thing: Sure, they only provide it for higher models so far and at outrageous prices. But that can be written about absolutely every Apple product. Even those stupid headphones have a price 6 times higher than what they are made for. People will buy it anyway. No matter what you're dealing with. I would rather expect similar talk about the price from an Android hater of Apple.
But that's how business is done, isn't it? :)
I really don't understand the point of this article, because Apple presented the Fusion Drive as a software feature that combines an SSD with a regular hard drive and never claimed that it is just one drive... and why are you mixing the Retina MacBook Pro, which is only sold with an SSD, when the Fusion Drive is it only sells for iMac and Mac Mini, where the hard drive can be easily replaced... I agree that the Fusion Drive is incredibly overpriced, but Apple is definitely not forcing anyone to buy it ;)
People, please read carefully. The MacBook pro is listed because Apple started minting a proprietary SSD connector there
That's what you want from the "fans": read properly... :) You wrote it very well and succinctly. Unfortunately for Apple…
I have nothing against the user paying extra for the Fusion Drive, but what annoys me the most about the new Retina MBPs is that the user simply cannot replace the hard drive at all :(
Gold SATA 2.5 Drive…
I have nothing against the user paying extra for the Fusion Drive, but what annoys me the most about the new Retina MBPs is that the user simply cannot replace the hard drive at all :(
Gold SATA 2.5 Drive…
However, it is clear that there are two discs. And as the author writes: Apple is a premium brand. How many people in the world buy Apple and then tinker with it and, for example, make their own FD? I can already see my dad editing photos, but he doesn't know how to program in the terminal. And I think that 90% of such people are the ones who paid for the advisors before they saved a rather small amount compared to the price of an iMac. I still don't see how someone would cope with disassembling an iMac :) And the author might be used to Apple's prices. Such a good article for a home handyman, or by the way, a chatterbox :)
Which FusionDrive doesn't bother me, but I didn't notice that the lower configurations only have 5400 rpm drives, and it's quite disappointing for me, I would have expected them to stick to the standard.
This article is very misleading in my opinion. Apple never presented the Fusion Drive as a new breakthrough technology. Almost all insiders know that similar solutions (combination of ssd and standard disk) already exist. However, I would see improvements mainly in the possibility of automatically moving frequently used programs and data to the ssd part of the Fusion Drive disk. Apple just took this technology up a notch and I don't know why they can't charge more money for it. It's definitely not a marketing trick on customers - I think most of them know very well what it is and why they pay extra for this technology. So this article is definitely not fair and puts Apple (in this case) in an unnecessarily bad light.
I don't agree with this comment: it's a marketing scam, a scam, considering the current prices of SSD drives, a computer with only an SSD drive will cost only a little more, but it is SIGNIFICANTLY faster than with an FD. And Apple puts itself in a bad light, by what and how and for how much it does. I totally agree with this: "But for desktops, it's just another step to get users to buy a Fusion Drive and avoid a slow drive." Nothing to add to that.
About the Fusion Drive
“Fusion Drive is a combination of 128GB of super-fast
flash storage and traditional hard disk. Automatically and dynamically
moves frequently used files to flash for faster access. iMac
with Fusion Drive, it starts up to 1,7 times faster, copies files
and imports photos up to 3,5 times faster*. The system continuously learns how
you work, and Fusion Drive gradually speeds up the responsiveness of your Mac.
While allowing you to store your entire digital life on a traditional,
a spacious hard drive."
I think you stepped a little off with this article dude..
I don't think so, "dude". I recommend reading the article again.
Ah, watch out for the ego of Mr. Žďánský, a great expert and independent critic.
Article about him..., perhaps the administrator realized that there are 2 disks and everything is taken care of by SW, that you use your connector and what should happen? if I made something, I wouldn't want people to modify it and buy it from somewhere else
I agree with the majority, this article really failed you. Apple does business and everyone knows that it is not the cheapest. Apple never advertised the disk as a single component and the fact that its price is inflated was to be expected, the same is the case with RAMs;-) And the fact that apple changed the SATA connector is another sign that they do the business really well.
But the customer is not here to admire the business, but to have the highest quality product for the cheapest possible money.
Absolutely true and especially the last paragraph
I understood the article and as an Apple fan, I am disappointed, immediately after the presentation of the new iMacs, I thought to myself that this is simply bad. I have an iMac mid 2007 and after Lion and now ML I couldn't stand it and put an SSD in it, it just started to be slow even with a large XNUMX disk. Apple will now present new models and put a slower drive there just for the reason that design simply takes precedence over functionality and performance. I would like to buy a new model, but then I will wait. If they wanted to save space and be as compact as possible, they only had an SSD in the data base, and in the higher data model, the option of choosing a second disk. That's how bad it is and the dog shits on them in the FD cells!
placas crap
Your grandma is paying bullshit, I don't understand why the Apple fanaticism? Is everyone here so dumb that they can't think about the fact that the new iMac is just shit? I'm really not surprised that they call us iOvce, we're embarrassing!
That's not Apple fanaticism, that's you talking shit
And what am I paying for crap, you smartass, can you tell me just one thing? Based on experience, I know that ML is much more demanding on disk speed than its predecessors SL and earlier versions. Now we get our hands on the model, the new iMac, which has a slower disk than the 2007 model. What is incomprehensible about it.
Are you going to compare a disc from 2007 with a disc from 2012?
Response to PPQ: I can compare, because according to the parameter, my old 3.5″ Samsung is still faster than the current one. Otherwise, the new iMac is also cut down when it comes to easily changing the RAM, it can no longer be changed normally, the monitor has to be completely peeled off, this also applies to the disk. So where does the innovation come from? Design is a beautiful thing, but it starts to be limiting.
Is a 128GB SSD not enough for you to store the data you use every day? please, what do you use on the disk every day, it's obviously not enough for you? I have a 60GB SSD for the system and what needs a fast start and that's enough for me, on the last one I have a TB drive where I have movies, photos and what I rarely use, I just don't understand what the slower disk is limiting you from loading your favorite porn by 1/2s dyl ? sad
A PC is a consumer product, that for a king's stick everyone upgraded the components to save money, it doesn't mean that it will remain in the future, development is going so fast that it's not even possible to practice, buy a new CPU and the rest of the PC lags behind it, so what's the use of it, just choose the optimal configuration for, let's say, the next 4 years and accept the fact that then you'll just buy a new one, soon it will be like that for everyone
Reaction to Neilz: I have a NAS for porn when you're already writing about it :-). I would be interested in what you do for a living, because if you have to read written text for a living, you will probably have serious problems. The whole article is about the fact that the basic version of the iMac only has a slow-speed disk, which is worse than its predecessor, and if you want an FD, you have to dig deep into your wallet! For God's sake, what kind of fools are coming here!
I have a macbook pro 13" 2011, of course I'm satisfied with it, it just needs a bit more performance, so I'm waiting for a mac pro because during this time I found out that it's not worth investing in other macs (and any fusion drive at all, overpriced frames, etc.), that is, only in that case, unless you need a so-called portable mac. But I completely understand Apple, their marketing is at a high level :)
The article is not stupid at all. It's fair to admit that sometimes we, Apple fans, are led by Apple. Someone here calls it bussines…:)
I'm happy to pay extra for design and quality. But I don't like it when someone offers me Viennese coffee with whipped cream in a spray for 45 CZK, but I can have real whipped cream for 65 CZK.
It offends me as a customer. It seems that the seller is counting on my stupidity and lack of information.
So please not here.
You are a Hottentot!
The main problem is the proprietary SATA connector. And once the harwar support for the new iMacs ends and the disk will be sent to you. How do you solve it? And HW support ends before you know it, as always. But we need to find a manufacturer that will produce disks with that connector on the basis of a license. Or some kind of adapter... which is also common in the world of apple products. Super functional and super small device with a mega huge adapter for anything.
well, if you take it that way, a normal 128GB SSD costs 3000 and they charge 6500... which makes an extra 3500
we all know that we pay extra for Apple (see RAM) but they did something new (made it in their own image...in this case usable) and they have to pay extra for it, which I don't think is stupid. even if it's purely a software issue, it doesn't mean that you leave it to us for free and as I already wrote....they charge extra....so I understand the price of 6500. it could be a bit cheaper, but I don't consider it shameless and a scam as the author of the article
Almost everyone here is crying, but everyone will buy it anyway, so what you are stressing about is the holidays and those who don't want or don't like it won't buy it period :))
They cry over the fact that somehow their own family is falling apart. A large number of people here have bought a lot of Apple devices and software, and are "trapped" in the apple ecosystem. They invested not only money but also time in how to use it. On my part, it's also the fear that Apple is becoming a very simple piece of work for paying customers.
Very nicely written. Unfortunately, I absolutely do not like this approach of Apple, over the last year. Be it FD, Mac, iPad, etc. . It seems to me that Apple really wants more and more money lately. Kudos to Michal once again for the article :).
So dears and darlings, I have a few notes about the comments in particular. The fact that apple offers something that has a higher price than others is probably not a surprise to anyone. Personally, I would easily pay extra for it and have it absolutely worry-free and with a warranty. If you have an SSD drive added to your iMac, for example from Nsparkle, you will pay CZK 3000 for the SSD, but also CZK 700 for the frame (for an iMac with an optical drive) and CZK 2400 for the work. So it's all of a sudden and someone else has been messing with your iMac!
The fact that apple has high margins is fine. No one wants to work and earn little money. Everyone wants to earn enough or preferably a lot. Apple must also have a high margin in order to be able to cover the costs associated with complaints. One example for all:
I bought an iMac 27 late 2009 two and a half years ago. I recently received an email from apple that the hard drive in my computer is defective and that they will replace it for free. When I took the iMac in for service, they replaced it within five days. At the same time, however, they discovered that there was dust baked on the back of the display, so they also replaced the display for me for free, without my asking them to do so. I REMINDER THAT THEY REPLACED THE DISK AND THE DISPLAY AFTER THE WARRANTY!!!
I can think of one more reason why apple has to have big margins. Imagine how much it costs to run such a data center where all the cloud accounts of all Apple users are!
Another thing - I bought my wife a new iMac 21,5 in the basic configuration and I am very pleasantly surprised. The responsiveness of the system, the launch of applications and the overall speed of the computer during normal use is absolutely fine. I was quite surprised because I was expecting it to be a pretty lazy comp. It's absolutely silent and doesn't get hot at all compared to my iMac 27 late 2009. I don't get it at all. With a comparable load after about two hours of work, the large iMac is so hot on the top that you can't slowly hold your hand on it, and the small iMac is completely cool across the entire surface.
So to summarize: apple products are expensive and some are overpriced. But they are luxurious, functional and reliable. Apple has excellent service and technical support. The new iMac is excellent in my opinion.
Personally, when I buy a new iMac in a few years, I will definitely order the FD. I am currently using a 240GB SSD + 1TB HDD in my iMac and am perfectly happy. But the disks are separate, I don't have the FD function active. However, I am very satisfied. It takes 14 seconds to start the system!!!
Anyone who feels that apple is ripping them off will buy a wok. And who doesn't, will buy an apple.
Hello, I have to agree with something and unfortunately not with something. I definitely do not agree that Apple has good service. They may have replaced everything just fine for you, but I got a corroded plate 3 times into my macbook. I have apply 3 at home and I'm not anti applista. I try to be objective. Unfortunately, he thinks that Apple is not what it used to be. It is definitely interesting that every time they release new models they are significantly more expensive than the original ones. Macbook mid 2010 13 in low configuration cost 28k. In 2011, it was already 30 and now it is 32, and there was no major upgrade. Unfortunately, I think that apple is no longer a premium brand and by releasing an ipad and another ipad in a few months, it is approaching other brands. Yes, it's certainly not like acer :-)) but I think if we compare a similar price category from Lenovo or Dell, it's the same except for OSX.
Regardless of the fact that leaving the 13×1280 resolution on a 800-inch stand (not counting the retina) is pathetic.
When I bought a Mac, it was a blast. Now it's already an overpriced toy from my point of view. Because the cheapest macbook pro 13 is really not worth the 32k.
I had a Macbook Air for a claim at the beginning of this year (touchpad not working as it should). I brought it there sometime after 4 in the afternoon, two days later I got a message around noon that I could pick it up. And if they had a spare part on hand, they would probably fix it while we waited. So, for myself, I am very pleasantly surprised by the quality and especially the speed of the service.
As for prices, try to look at the dates when they changed prices and at the same time look at the exchange rate of CZK to USD. You will find that price movements are strikingly similar to exchange rate changes.
For those prices, friend, do you ever go to the American apple website? The price doesn't change there, but only with us, then convert it to CZK from USD and then add transport, American tax, customs and our tax (which has also increased now, if I'm not mistaken). And by the way, I have a wonderful experience with Apple support.
Apple brought server technology to the desktop system. Well, he gets paid for it. Stop being so naive with these articles. Anyone else could have done it, but it wasn't "worth it" to him. After all, you don't expect that technology to be released at the price of an SSD drive. Someone simply has to pay for the development and implementation into Mac OS.
So I would really like to know how to make Fusion Drive work in Mountain Lion. I have two disks in my MacBook Pro Mid'09, a 500GB HDD 5400rpm and a 120GB SSD disk. So if I understood correctly from the article, I could activate this technology and it would work for me on this machine as well?
I'm not sure if this can be done with data retention. It's just a matter of merging two disks into one. There are quite a lot of instructions on how to do this.
No, it cannot be done without losing data. First, both disks in the console must be merged into one and then reinstalled... I am thinking about this solution for my Mac Mini. I have a 128GB SDD and a 500GB HDD.
I also have a 750GB HD + 120GB SSD and I made the FD myself using terminal commands. It cannot be done without losing data. That is make a Time Machine backup, prepare a bootable USB-Flashdisk, start from it and make a logical volume of two disks in the exact order in the terminal !!! and then install ML and time machine to return the data….
I did it 14 days ago and so far the MBPro 15" is running OK.
After all, I have the feeling that Apple Fusion Drive is not even promoted as HARDWARE, but as a SOLUTION for which some HW is necessary, but mainly as its SW. So there is no tangible product called Fusion drive but it is a technology built into the OS. This is how it was presented, and this is how I understood it.
"The only real breakthrough is the introduction of technology to the wider public." - well, this is exactly what distinguishes those who think that it is enough to "invent" something and it will "self" prevail.
From my own experience, there is no difference between 7200rpm and 5400rpm, on the contrary, 5.4k is quieter with less consumption and with the same write and read speeds. It is a 3TB WD caviar green as a replacement for the original 1TB WD caviar black for data and I have an intel ssd for the axis. Imac 27′ mid 2010
From my own experience, there is no difference between 7200rpm and 5400rpm, on the contrary, 5.4k is quieter with less consumption and with the same write and read speeds. It is a 3TB WD caviar green as a replacement for the original 1TB WD caviar black for data and I have an intel ssd for the axis. Imac 27′ mid 2010
From my own experience, there is no difference between 7200rpm and 5400rpm, on the contrary, 5.4k is quieter with less consumption and with the same write and read speeds. It is a 3TB WD caviar green as a replacement for the original 1TB WD caviar black for data and I have an intel ssd for the axis. Imac 27′ mid 2010
If you have one HD movie on it and you copy it to another disc, there is no difference. But when you have 100000 files on the disk that are scattered all over the disk, you will know the difference.
You just can't explain this to this smart guy here, that the basic version of the iMac is a step forward and a step back at the same time. The brand new model is more closed for custom memory or disk upgrades, the difficulty of disassembly has increased again. I think that apple fandom should be considered a mental illness.
and that's where the FD technology comes from, if you use those 100000 files a day, move them to the SSD, you just have to deal with it.
I don't talk shit, and to me you're a fool who doesn't understand the written text! The basic version of the iMac comes with a slow-speed disk, and BTO can only be granted for the more expensive version. This means that the customer will get a more expensive computer with a worse disk than with the older model from 2011. The whole article is about this one thing, I bought my iMac in 2008 for some 32 thousand, the basic version. Today the base costs 34.5 thousand without a 3.5″ disk! If I wanted the FD as you write, I have to choose the more expensive BTO model, which will cost almost 47! Do you understand the difference? I don't know, but what on earth is incomprehensible about this and why am I writing and drawing shit? Apple fans will applaud even if they get kicked in the ass in the iStyle, right?
You expert, make a statistic of how many files the OS has and how many of them it uses on a daily basis. The point is that if you have an OS on the disk, you use reading and writing to 100-1000 files. Otherwise, with the basic model, it is a step backwards in terms of performance. Remember that the disk is the slowest part of the computer these days.
I like Apple products, but I also have a sad view of certain things that are already hitting me in the eye.
The difficulty of dismantling has already increased due to the fact that the front glass is not on magnets, but is glued. Unfortunately, Apple constantly needs to increase its profits, and it is doing well with a disposable product without the possibility of reselling. That's why articles about how Apple uses fusion drive to take people's money are nonsense.
I fully agree with the article. I've been waiting for the new iMac for almost a year.
Not only is the base model 200 euros more expensive, but the base has an embarrassingly slow disk. If you want FD, you have to pay extra for a more expensive model + the FD itself, which is 500 euros in total.
I don't want to lament the price here. I will pay 1800 euros for the machine, but I expect it to have a warranty of at least 3 years. I also planned an MBA mainly because of the SSD drive. Only the SSD will go away and it's only a matter of time. I have the feeling that Apple only makes products that people have to change every 2 years. IT development is not as advanced as it used to be. My 6.5 year old Toshiba laptop managed W7 just fine.
It is written as an opinion and I take it as such! I don't have to agree with everything, anyway, thank you for having the courage to write this. It could have been written with more insight, but it's still an opinion. On the other hand, I don't think that the properties that Apple tries to cram into its devices in order to prevent the upgrade of the devices by the customers themselves cannot be bypassed.
originally it was not written as an opinion, that's why so many negative comments. If the title was like that from the beginning and it was written a little more with a perspective, then no one can tell even the ashes..
The comment about Intel coming up with it x years ago is completely misguided, because that's exactly what communication is about. Who ever heard of this solution from Intel? NO ONE! So the fact that Apple was able to decommunicate it is only his plus. I don't consider it a fraud.. It's a great solution for users who don't care anymore if Intel came up with it over x years ago, who didn't know how to "sell" it.. Apple simply managed it and set a price for it.. That's nothing against it nothing..
It depends. It's quite common to exploit people's ignorance and stupidity, but that doesn't mean that it's right and wrong... I like Apple, but I can't say that I would be excited about such an action.
At work we received DELL desktops with this disk and after a short time they bought an SSD drive :-) But it's better than a wire in the eye :-)
Fusion Drive =/= hybrid drive
http://jablickar.cz/fusion-drive-to-nejlepsi-z-ssd-i-pevnych-disku/
It's a bummer from Apple - a decent company wouldn't sell a new version of a product that's worse and more expensive than the old version. Of course, it's a cold calculation, because anyone can compare 5400 and 7200, so in the end, everyone will pay extra, although they don't like it. Apple are simply perfect in how to sell an already expensive thing even more expensive, because no sane person will buy a computer for 50.000, which they would have to throw away in a year. Apple doesn't mess with customers at all in this, practically no support for only a few years old products, buy a new one. Of course, a company with that kind of fan base and that kind of capital can afford to step on shit, it just shouldn't step in it very often. Of course, hybrid drives or their software integration into the system are not Apple's invention, but no one is arguing about that here. The price is high. It's not a scam, if you don't like it, you don't have to buy it.
Virtually no support? Try this - find me which Android phone still has the latest version of Android even after almost 4 years since its launch? I have an iPhone 3Gs and I run iOS 6 on it without problems, although not with all the goodies. What Android phone from the summer of 2009 today reaches for Android 4.x by default and officially?
"Apple since the first MacBook with retina display..."
If I remember correctly, the sale of the MacBook was discontinued in July 2011 and it never had a Retina display - at least mine doesn't have one.
It already reminds me of the argument "I can't change the iPhone's battery, I'm doing it to make money". People, if you don't fully understand this technology, at least don't show it. It looks stupid. Apple's direction has always been towards better devices even at the cost of less repairability. And this just came with it. Is it so hard to understand?
If you want a repair shop device on your knee, you're in the wrong place with Apple.
You are completely off the mark, read the article and then comment. Another fool who wants to throw brains!
Thanks for the intelligent answer, but I think I'm on a mission.
MacBook Pro with retina display and new iMacs already have most of the components assigned to the board during production, so you cannot name these components yourself. That's the first thing. So the argument that Apple put a proprietary SATA connector in these MacBooks just so that people can't buy other SSDs seems a little out of place to me.
If I can't change the disk myself anyway, why do I think that if it failed, I couldn't put my own there? And if someone thinks that Apple introduces new connectors and standards JUST for the sake of another closure, then they are quite out of their depth and do not understand the technology at all (e.g. lightning was introduced because mini USB would not be able to handle such a transfer in its lifetime, firewire has been around for several times) faster than USB, etc.).
And when it comes to open standards, who do you think was most responsible for the development of WebKit, Thunderbolt and other OPEN standards?
I say again, if a person doesn't understand it, they just look stupid when they swear about it ;-)
And I still don't understand what is meant in the article as "buy Fusion Drive". Fusion Drive is a software solution that is applied to two different drives in a computer. Fusion Drive, i.e. the software, is part of the OS. So what exactly must be purchased for the Fusion Drive?
Absolutely true, the author of the article bit into the idea that it was unfair and didn't want to let go of it until it became a lie...
Yes, FD is a software issue, but you must have two disks in your computer to use it. Basically, there is only a slow (5400 revolutions) disk, which, as I have already written here several times, is a step backwards. In today's time, a low-speed disk drive for such money is outrageous, regardless of the fact that its predecessor had a 3.5" disk with 7200 rpm. So, in order to have a satisfactorily fast computer, you have to upgrade to a higher version and choose the BTO configuration with a price of approx. 47. Of course, you can only buy the basic version and replace the drive yourself with an SSD, but disassembly is again more complicated, the monitor is stuck. Apple simply deliberately makes things inaccessible for users, Jobs himself states in his book that he does not want to let users into the guts, so special screws were created that were not common at the time. So this is just about the customer paying handsomely and not being able to change the configuration himself. I see that there are still people who applaud it and are so happy that now it is not possible to replace the stupid RAM without complex disassembly! Bravo! Hurrah! Everyone bend over, grab your books and let Apple fuck you from behind, it's pretty trendy and cool!
Sure, if you think that the new iMacs, MacBook Pro with retina display, iPad, iPhone, iPods and other devices can't be repaired on your knees JUST because Apple doesn't want people to repair something themselves, then you absolutely cannot understand this technology. However, your contribution is quite suggestive. And as I wrote, talking about something I don't understand makes you look stupid.
If you still can't clean, I asked what must be purchased for the FD. I don't see why you started talking about hard disk speeds, which by the way again shows that you absolutely do not understand how FD works. But you will probably be one of those who think that a better device must be faster on paper, bigger, have more cores, a bigger battery, etc. and they don't understand, but in reality this absolutely does not mean a quality device.
And why do you think EPL is doing this, if not for mammon?
Hmm, ask the hundred million customers who buy their products rather than the competition? It is necessary because Apple products are made as tools for people who create something else, but don't have time to dig into it. Some other companies make products for people who just want to tinker with them, but don't have anything else to use their computers/tablets/smartphones for.
Even though I'm studying this, I still use computers, etc. as tools to do something more meaningful than messing around with settings. That's why I want (and most people in the world who do something other than computer repair at work) a simply working tool that works best and reliably.
The fact that I can't change the iPhone's battery is something I'm happy to sacrifice for the benefits that the iPhone itself will bring to my productivity. But I believe that a lot of people who simply have nothing else to do but write on the Internet in their sleep and clothes, simply don't see this from a perspective (which I don't blame them for, they just need to broaden their horizons a bit).
I repeat again, if you care less about reliability and functionality than about the battery, frame or disk, then you are in the wrong place with Apple. I don't see what is so difficult to understand.
From the photo, you look like you have Down syndrome. I don't understand why you ask so stupidly? In order for FD to work, I wrote that you must have two disks! Basically, there is only one disk, my God, what kind of ignoramuses are here? Is there someone from the discussion to be able to explain to this stupid Honzo how FD works? I don't have the strength for it anymore.
Now you've gone absolutely nuts - you've only sounded stupid up until now, but after making fun of people with Down's syndrome, you've come across as a complete moron and human waste. With this, I stop responding to you, because I refuse to discuss with such a human abomination.
This is no longer a technology discussion. You obviously have a problem.
I don't make fun of disabled people. On the contrary, I helped them as a therapist for a long time. I think you're just a looker. Judging by the photo, tilted head, cool pose, you'll come across as retarded. A student who mysteriously got into CVUT, with your grasp of the facts, I am amazed how it is possible that you finished the gym. Well.. comments are written elsewhere about the quality of today's schools. I guessed you right, you're a right-wing brat who went on hunger strike yesterday and rolled up his pants today. So tweet it, it's pretty trendy!
I will ignore that you keep insulting me personally and think you know something about me. I will not resort to such primitives.
But the fact that I gave way to the memory of Vaclav Havel with a free gesture is completely my personal matter. Feel free to stalk me on Twitter, apparently you're about as useful as a spambot. I didn't go on hunger strike because I didn't know about it - but I would have joined. And the fact that you can't imagine that someone is worth fighting for freedom and democracy because they believe in it and not to look 'cool' just shows how empty and unhappy your life is. I am sorry for you. You and others who simply have no one and nothing to fight for. Who live a life driven by envy and hatred.
However, this is not related to the topic at all. You managed to generate so much hatred just because I stopped thinking about what (when I have two discs and Mountain Lion) I still need to 'buy' on the Fusion Drive. ;-)
Hello,
I plan to buy a new iMac 27″. I originally wanted a classic 1T disk, but then I wanted an SSD. If I understand this article correctly - there is no way to not pay extra for FD and have SSD? Thanks for the reply.
For 6500 kc for a 1TB hard drive, you get the SSD on which Fusion Drive will run. Which is not so bad that most of your data will move from HD speed to almost SSD speed.
I hope that he will be able to deal with it even if I have a Macbook pro i5 / 128SSD and I am going to add another 1TB HDD to it, which will cost exactly the same money.
hmmm.. I bought a 21,5″ in max configuration and have had it at home for 18 days... it cost a lot of money, but I made myself happy and "fulfilled my dream" in the form of my first Mac. fd maka is absolutely fine, any application (HD video editing, photo editing, graphics,... ...even some games) works quickly, the design is amazing... I don't understand what you are trying to do here. I either want it and put the money into it, or I don't want it and save the money. but in that case why would I swear at it? apple did not, did not and never will make cheap products. don't like you go to the competition... my opinion.
Here, no one criticizes the iMac, it's a beautiful piece, but the business model that Apple is implementing now is a classic rip-off! I don't understand why the customer should not be able to choose what disc he wants even with the basic model. Simply choosing the disk, RAM size should be a matter of course. Here, however, Apple forces the customer to go to a higher version in order to reach the FD, which is completely unnecessary! Pretty much everyone wants a fast disk these days, I don't see why I should shell out that kind of money just to get an extra 128GB SSD. Why am I making such a fuss about it?