It has been exactly seven years since Steve Jobs unveiled the iPhone on stage in front of the audience, the mobile phone that changed the entire industry and started the smartphone revolution. Competitors reacted differently to the newly introduced phone, but it was their reaction and speed of response that determined their future for years to come. Steve Ballmer laughed off the iPhone and touted his strategy with Windows Mobile. Two years later, the whole system was cut and with the current Windows Phone 8, it has a share of a few percent.
At first, Nokia completely ignored the iPhone and tried to continue to push its Symbian and later its touch-friendly version. The stock eventually plummeted, the company adapted Windows Phone, and eventually sold its entire mobile division to Microsoft for a fraction of what it once cost. Blackberry was able to respond adequately only at the beginning of last year, and the company is currently on the verge of bankruptcy and does not really know what to do with itself. Palm reacted quite briskly and managed to bring WebOS, which is still praised to this day, and with it the Palm Pré phone, however, as a result of American operators and problems with component suppliers, the company was eventually sold to HP, which buried the entire WebOS, and the system now recalls its former potential only on smart TV screens LG.
Google was able to react the fastest with its Android operating system, which arrived in the form of the T-Mobile G1/HTC Dream less than a year and a half after the iPhone went on sale. However, it was a long way to the form of Android, which Google officially presented at the time, and thanks to the book Dogfight: How Apple and Google Went to War and Started a Revolution we can also learn something behind the scenes.
In 2005, the situation surrounding mobile phones and operators was significantly different. The oligopoly of a few companies controlling cellular networks dictated the entire market, and phones were created practically only on the orders of operators. They controlled not only aspects of the hardware but also the software and provided their services only on their sandbox. Trying to develop any software was more or less a waste of money because there was no standard between phones. Only Symbian had several mutually incompatible versions.
At that time, Google wanted to push its search into mobile phones, and to achieve this, it had to communicate everything through operators. However, the operators preferred the ringtones they sold themselves in the search, and the results from Google were displayed only in the last places. In addition, the Mountain View company faced another threat, and that was Microsoft.
Its Windows CE, then known as Windows Mobile, were becoming quite popular (although historically their share was always below 10 percent), and Microsoft also at that time began to promote its own search service, which later transformed into today's Bing. Google and Microsoft were already rivals back then, and if, with the growing popularity of Microsoft, they pushed their search at Google's expense and didn't even offer it as an option, there would be a real risk that the company would slowly lose its only source of money at the time, which came from ads in search results . At least that's what Google officials thought. Similarly, Microsoft completely killed Netscape with Internet Explorer.
Google knew that to survive in the mobile era, it would need more than just integrating its search and app to access its services. That's why in 2005 he bought the Android software startup founded by former Apple employee Andy Rubin. Rubin's plan was to create an open-source mobile operating system that any hardware manufacturer could implement for free on their devices, unlike the licensed Windows CE. Google liked this vision and after the acquisition appointed Rubin as head of development of the operating system, whose name it kept.
Android was supposed to be revolutionary in many ways, in some aspects more revolutionary than the iPhone that Apple later introduced. It had the integration of popular Google web services including maps and YouTube, could have multiple applications open at the same time, had a full-fledged internet browser and was supposed to include a centralized store with mobile applications.
However, the hardware form of Android phones at the time was supposed to be completely different. The most popular smartphones at the time were BlackBerry devices, following their example, the first Android prototype, codenamed Sooner, had a hardware keyboard and a non-touch display.
On January 9, 2007, Andy Rubin was on his way to Las Vegas by car to meet with hardware manufacturers and carriers. It was during the trip that Steve Jobs revealed his ticket to the mobile phone market, which later made Apple the most valuable company in the world. Rubin was so impressed by the performance that he stopped the car to watch the rest of the broadcast. That's when he said to his colleagues in the car: "Shit, we're probably not going to launch this [Sooner] phone."
Even though Android was in some ways more advanced than the first iPhone, Rubin knew he would have to rethink the whole concept. With Android, it gambled on what users loved about BlackBerry phones—the combination of a great hardware keyboard, email, and a solid phone. But Apple has completely changed the rules of the game. Instead of a hardware keyboard, he offered a virtual one, which, although not nearly as accurate and fast, did not occupy half of the display all the time. Thanks to the all-touch interface with a single hardware button on the front below the display, each application could have its own controls as needed. Moreover, Sooner was ugly since the wonderful iPhone, which was supposed to be compensated by the revolutionary Android.
This was something Rubin and his team considered risky at the time. Due to major changes in the concept, the Sooner was canceled and a prototype codenamed Dream, which had a touch screen, came to the fore. The introduction was thus postponed until the fall of 2008. During its development, Google engineers focused on everything that the iPhone could not do to differentiate the Dream sufficiently. After all, for example, the absence of a hardware keyboard was still considered a shortcoming, which is why the first Android phone ever, the T-Mobile G1, also known as the HTC Dream, had a slide-out section with typing keys and a small scroll wheel.
After the introduction of the iPhone, time stood still at Google. The most secretive and ambitious project at Google, on which many had spent 60-80 hours a week for more than two years, was obsolete that morning. Six months of work with prototypes, which should have resulted in the final product presented at the end of 2007, went to waste, and the entire development was postponed by another year. Rubin associate Chris DeSalvo commented, “As a consumer, I was blown away. But as a Google engineer, I thought we'd have to start over."
While the iPhone was arguably Steve Jobs' greatest triumph, lifting Apple above all other companies and today still accounting for more than 50 percent of all revenue in Infinity Loop 1, it was a blow to the ribs for Google—at least its Android division.
it wouldn't be a bad idea to check the article and correct the mistakes and nonsense...
But that wouldn't really be apple pie, would it?
Don't want to be specific?
Are you living in the past again? How many times will there be a similar article..m
Thanks for the article, I enjoyed reading it. Write, write and write... It doesn't matter what the specific topic is, as long as it is related to Apple products or some progressive technology, so that each of us can find what interests him. After all, I don't have to read what I'm not interested in... And what's more, it's free!!!
Nice article and a good reminder of how it was.. ugh.. that's how it was, and then they cloned their droid by stealing all the gadgets and the whole concept from the iPhone and made it available to anyone, so for example Samsung thanks to the software and hardware theft of the iPhone - which is still crime and mega-thieves - thanks to which, at the expense of Apple, for example, the egoists from Samsung became incredibly rich and at the same time profiled themselves as proper characterless wretches who, instead of daily praises of Apple, still slander and slander it.. OMG and OMG.-)
And so, whether anyone likes it or not, it is on the one hand the story of apple as revolutionary genius innovators and on the other hand the thieves and bastards that are Google, Samsung, etc. That is the reality and nothing will change the fact that it is still most droid fans on 100 pro, won't try,.. .-)
It would be necessary to occasionally pull your head out of your ass and look objectively at what Apple has stolen, copied, whom it has not paid for patents... By the way, when you are looking for something on the Internet, what search engine do you use? Probably the List, right - according to the intelligence of your post, I don't assume that the search engine from Google, which also stole from someone, preferably poor Apple :-) and you certainly use Apple maps, which are incredibly detailed and accurate, especially in the Czech Republic :-)))... Simply all companies in the world are ugh thieves and liars, only Apple in the eyes of sheep is the best company in the world, which invented and designed everything by itself and everyone else beat them and copied everything.
Otherwise, I use Apple iVec, but I can also use my head.
so let's feed the first troll - what exactly did Apple steal, copy and who didn't pay for the patents? And if possible, give us something related to the iPhone so that we don't grow a beard while writing
So how about iOS7 design as a copy of Android 4? Flat style, quick settings panel, dropdown roller, automatic updates and lots of other things? It's not enough? Of course, such a stupidly made copy that most of the sheep swear at it as it is worth nothing - so they can't even beat it, but it's definitely the most amazing OS in the world - it's just that Apple pissed off most of the sheep, but otherwise it's a perfect company :-) . Patents on GSM networks that Apple never paid Motorola for? Patents regarding the GSM antenna, for which he did not pay Samsung? Not for nothing, Samsung also filed patent lawsuits against Apple, but we can't talk about that here, because Apple is divine :-) No, and I'm not really going to look it up for you, use the stolen Google to find it, sheep... Apple really isn't that perfect , as the sheep convince themselves over and over again. Just admit that the iPhone is in the anus compared to Android, just look at the development of the market share, where the share of iOS compared to other OSes decreases by several percent every quarter. The ever-decreasing share of iOS is definitely due to how divine iOS is, isn't it :-))). It just eats at you, so you have to create such articles to confirm to yourself what kind of poor people you are - that Apple is going to hell without Jobs, so you need to blame the fault on everyone else who is only robbing Apple. It's sad what fanaticism can do to one type of phone.
I didn't even read it here, just asking - "Quick Settings Panel"? Seriously?! Is he in the notification center or what did he steal? No, he was inspired and made it differently. (Just like he didn't steal the phone - he took the best and made it different, that's what we're talking about today.) The only similarity is that when you click on the WiFi icon, it turns WiFi on or off, that's the end of it.
The word "sheep"/"sheep" and the like is rather embarrassing that you enjoy it, in every sentence. Until both sides come to their senses, neither side will have any.
PS: Your "declining share" (seriously?) is probably due to the number of devices running each OS, right? So one phone + two tablets vs. several hundreds of thousands of devices with Android (everything is already counted there, TVs, monitors, cameras) - that's a beautiful result, and definitely influenced by the "perfection" of the system. Try to get your head out of your ass sometimes too..
Ah, so everyone else is just ripping off Apple, but when Apple does it, it gets inspired and does it differently :-))) Yes, of course, instead of the panel for quickly turning on Wifi, BT doesn't put it up but down, so that it's not so ugly, that he was faking it. Although it gets in the way when scrolling through applications, the main thing is that he was inspired. Stupid, but inspired :-) Sure, and about Little Red Riding Hood... Sheep...
Of course, the declining share is due to the number of devices that use it. If iOS was a much more perfect OS than Android, it would be used in so many types of devices, wouldn't it? However, due to its closedness and politics, it is of course only used by Apple. And the consequence? With the decreasing number of devices, it won't pay for developers to develop applications for such an OS at all, just look at WM, which, in the same way the OS is closed, has trouble getting to any significant percentage of extensions because there are no applications for it. Just a year ago, customers always wanted us to create a mobile application for both OSes, today 2/3 of customers only want the Android version... If I'm looking for a developer, I'll find 10 Androidists for one iOSer because of the incredibly complicated Objective C, which even experienced C users have a problem with ++) chess players. Not to mention the lousy developer support from Apple (fascist ways of approving apps when they are displayed on the AppStore, the developer console, where you can't find out anything about downloading and selling apps, errors in the SDK, backwards compatibility problems, and other quirks).
Sometimes you really want to get your head out of your tax bag and not look at iThings just from the point of view of how beautiful they look. Even if you don't want to admit it, the competition can do something too, and if Apple doesn't do "something", it will end up where it almost ended up once before.
I still don't understand what you're doing on Apple sites. Please go and treat your mind on the android site. And instead of a sheep, please come up with something new so you don't steal linux all the time. And the developers you have for the Android app probably work for free, because making an App for Android has one weakness, and that is the constant cracking by users. That's why you can find the best quality applications on IOS. Because despite the poor communication from Apple, approvals, SDKs, etc., etc., you have one advantage when developing for IOS. You will get paid and indeed from almost all IOS users. It is interesting that Windows Phone users do not need to go to these sites all the time and cure their mental illness.
Peter Peter…. I really enjoy hearing that an OS has the best applications, and it doesn't matter if it's for desktop or mobile.
Are you so sure about that? Or do you have to confirm that if you paid for it, it must be of the highest quality?
How is MS Office the best text editor for you? Just because it is the most expensive? And the stupid Libre Office is bad and low-quality because it's free?
And the iPhone is the best because it costs how much? And OSX etc?
I'm afraid I can't agree with you. Every system is good in the hands of a reasonable user, and everyone is comfortable with something different.
But otherwise I agree -war- is a stupid troll, he talks nonsense.
When he uses iPhone and Samsung at the same time, for at least a year or two in parallel, then he can judge what is or isn't good quality. I wrote my personal assessment here, or the ranking is how I see it. And yes, I agree that I consider iOS and OSX to be very high quality OS, iPhone and MacBookPro to be very high quality HW.
But the useful value for me is poor, it's great in terms of design, technically the HW is poor. A little dust and Mac goes to hell. The iPhone is the same. The design is good, but try to fix it, better and cheaper to buy a new one.
And as for apps, well… I haven't found any major differences between iOS and Android yet. You can make phone calls, text messages and use the Internet from both. The rest is only for a select few, the BFU can't use it anyway.
Mr. -war-, you sound like an incredibly stupid person. So many inaccuracies and lies that you write here, you are a total troll who has no interest in a decent discussion.
And what's more, the technical nonsense - incredibly complicated Objective-C? Do you know C++ at all? Poor developer support from Apple? Unable to find the number of downloads of your own application? Bugs in the SDK?
So much bullshit in one paragraph... :D I have been working as a developer for several years and I can only see how many Java programmers run to Objective-C and Apple, because the average salary of an iOS developer is significantly higher than that of an Android developer.
But a troll like you certainly has more accurate information than me from practice :)
Please, is there even one word in my posts about others stealing or anything against them? No, open your eyes and read what is written. I didn't say Apple doesn't steal and others do - only you.
And we probably won't talk about developers here, just like czechboy0, I'm one of them and you obviously don't know much.
You have some clients, if only together - the bastards in Bohnice with whom you lie in the room, you fool.
What is the new mobile with WM please? I thought WM was a long dead platform.
Read what you wrote again after yourself. Aren't you the sheep? You are promoting your little sand here .. plus your notif copying examples. centers etc. are from a later date. The fact that Android is what it is is really inspired by Apple or IOS otherwise you would have a phone with hardware today. keyboard. And speaking of the famous stolen patents, Apple won a lawsuit against Samsung both in the US and in Korea. Really start thinking and don't be so blind. By the way, there are other sites for Android, this one is about Apple, so don't expect us to praise and write about Android here. At least you could get your head around this.
PS: In 98, all MS users were called sheep on Linux forums. Did you have to borrow this to have something to insult?
did not disappoint trolls did not disappoint :)))
and as a troll, you sound pretty good in a fog of half-truths, lies and self-pity... I don't know what you're doing on the Apple community pages, I think a psychologist would work on you, and cases like you, like in a uranium mine
I don't have iOS7 and I don't even want to, so I can't verify what you say, and I don't think that J.Ive would need inspiration for a work in progress that uses simple graphics just so that the scrolling doesn't crash and seems smooth. Or have I missed some Android phone that has a parallax effect and 60fps Gaussian blur?
ad patents - you read the internet, but like a proper troll, you don't understand what you're reading. Apple refused to pay the exorbitant FRAND fees to Motorola and Samsung, and when it came to trial, Motorola backed out and Samsung, after being slapped by the EU Commission for abusing FRAND patents, shouted that it would demand the same from Apple as from everyone else . In addition, Motorola lost a court case in DE at the end of last year, where they blocked push email from working for almost 2 years, and iCloud works in DE like everywhere else. In contrast, Samsung will pay Apple for losing the lawsuit, and a new round of litigation is set for this year. Both Samsung and Motorola will receive license fees from Apple, but only at the level that they pay to other companies and not their obscene 2.5% of the price of the phone that they demanded from Apple. You just don't know, or you don't want to know, right?
ad market share – in mobile phones as consumer goods, this means nothing, what is important is the ecosystem, its attractiveness for developers (you can find their work awards) and the protection of consumers against malware, viruses and applications that steal personal data without the user's knowledge. The fact that there are no high-quality and exclusive paid applications on Android only confirms that the ecosystem that Google is pulling is second-rate, even if it has caught up or even overtaken iOS in terms of quantity. I recently read a discussion of Android developers and users who vehemently requested a port of Panzer Corps (the successor to Panzer General from the MS-DOS era). The answer was that it doesn't make economic sense due to piracy and fragmented HW specifications, which is why I don't even plan to do anything like that in the near future & the biggest screamer got a permanent ban for advocating software piracy.
On the other hand, if you want to compare apples to apples, look at the iPhone's market share in the category of similar smartphones and the result is quite the opposite of what you and similar cases are trying to present (Google search will help you). A few years ago, Nokia was the global leader in Symbian phones, and today they are just a sweat shop for Ballmer, so that he would have someone to put on WinMo phones that nobody wants (not as a mobile phone, but as an ecosystem... CES 2014 is a great example of this, where new solutions are either iOS / Android exclusive or dual, but no other system is advancing).
I personally have never been interested in market share, it is a statistic that has little telling power in technology and especially needs to be understood and interpreted correctly - no motorist would even think of criticizing Mercedes or BMW because of their market share. What you also don't understand is that Apple advances continuous innovation, not leapfrogging. Exclaiming what we will do in a year or two, giving journalists 'visionary' presentations of what the world will look like in 5 years is the domain of the MS, Samsung, Nokia and other similar companies, who can manage just that video, but not the production of the product itself.
I don't know what you're trying to do in this discussion, but based on how you 'conducted' your understanding of the issue of mobile platforms, I dare to doubt that you're programming anything on Android at all.
I rather think that you are an ordinary scratched zero who bought a stock phone that won't be supported in 1 year and now you are treating yourself to it on internet forums.
God, you're an idiot, then don't be surprised that the Applists despise you, go cry to your mom.
I do not argue with Jirko that he is mentally disabled. His crap here is pathetic. However, your statement that Applists despise those who don't have an iPhone is just as stupid. What makes you think that iOS is better than Android, UbuntuTouch or other OS?? The belief that only a device for x thousand can be the best? Or the desire to prove to oneself that the investment of 13-16 thousand was good, because those HW failures cannot work for 6 thousand after all.
It reminds me of the hordes of MS Windows users that only their OS is the best and all others are unusable.
I'm laughing, because I have from my own experience that both Ubuntu and OSX are fully usable for work, and even if I were to compile a ranking, then OSX is in 1st place, in 2nd place is Ubuntu (or any Linux) and up to 3 instead of MS Windows.
And I feel the same way about phones.
Yes, I take iOS and iPhone as the top, Android in second place and WM far and away.
And honestly, that Android will do the same job as iOS, and including HW costs half as much.
So forgive yourself for the contempt, you have nothing to be proud of. Steve Jobs himself admitted that he actually stole what he could and sanctified it with patents. And just by the way, if it weren't for Android, MS would have had to end the development of WM and close Nokia a long time ago, because payments from license fees from Android make a lot of income.
After all, you can't read from my post that I consider iOS an idol and I don't even criticize Google's operating system. I am only referring to the animosity and attitude of most androidists towards iOS... this provocateur should get his ears out of the stain. I think a lot of Apple users are sorry to see a similar social outpouring on "our" favorite technology...
Thief and bastard right? What did the great Steve himself say in the interview?
A quote from Picasso. "good artists copy, great artists steal."
urban myth... did you know that Apple paid Xerox to license the UI and that when the Xerox engineers saw it later, they themselves said that it had little to do with their poor GUI? But it's easier to repeat this nonsense, because it sounds better and you look cool when you write it in such a discussion, right?
The lost court cases of Samsung, Motorola, HTC's license agreement with Apple and the license fees that Android manufacturers pay to MS really confirm those words about thieves, but I would leave those bastards out there, even if it is still correct in the case of liars from Samsung
-SJ- as an iVeci user I am ashamed of you. Thanks to people like you, apple users are called sheep.
Out of the whole article, I was most amused by the discussion (not that the article was bad, I really liked it) but the discussion is great
...I'm probably in the minority, but I was not at all excited about the iPhone "1" and at that time I considered Apple as a rarity ...and today I develop for them :-D ...yeah and agree with "Choose" - the discussion is a mess :- )
The discussion was amused, especially by "iOS developers" who have never seen anything else in their lives, but feel that support from Apple is "the best of" for development. So a little enlightenment for the sheeple:
iOS (I) – paid developer account so that I can test the written application on my device, i.e. I have costs before I even write anything (not to mention HW, see below)
Android (A) – not necessary, the device can be switched to DVL and test the app, the bill is paid only upon final release (or if I want alpha and beta testing, see below), I can develop on anything
I – there is no native support for alpha and beta testing, it is necessary to use third-party tools, e.g. Testfligt. Strap with certificates and device ID unreal if the tester is not iOS dev friendly. At the same time, dependence on someone else.
A – native support directly in the dev console and Google Play, including detailed logs and communication with testers
I – the impossibility of development outside of the Mac environment (Linux, Widle), the necessity of acquiring HW for development
A – development possible on Mac, Widle, Linux
I - inability to respond to comments on the AppStore about your applications
A – the possibility to comment on individual comments
I – there is no overview of the number of currently operated (not only installed) apps, statistics on versions, operators, language mutations of the application are missing, there is no overview of push notifications sent / delivered / undelivered
A – direct support of the above
I – lack of ĆR support, the app must be exposed to the US
And - no problem
I – higher development costs (HW, developers, multiple MDs for the same app)
A – higher testing costs (device fragmentation)
I – publishing the app on AS – first 10-14 days, then 3-5 days (in the case of a critical error in the app, the wrong version of the app hangs there for several days)
And - within an hour
And many others, those with intelligence will find the differences.
But of course Apple has the best development support in the world, no doubt about it :-))). The rest of the screaming comments are not worth discussing further, Jobs' bloatedness is hereditary even through aluminum.
why are you chasing a T-shirt is really a mystery to me... no one is interested in Android and your stuff, if someone wants to know something, they can probably find it on the internet these days
most of the points you make here are completely ridiculous, the reality of the earnings of iOS developers proves that what you portray as a problem, it is not at all
Well, you see, I'm not interested in the rants of a jackass on Czech pages who will instruct me on what and where to write.
When I run out of arguments, mine are ridiculous. That's the same pearl as everyone steals and Apple gets inspired :-) By the way, my reaction was to the master developers who were chasing their shirts in front of the one below in the discussion.
And what are the "earnings" of iOS developers, please? Considering the cost to start development? And some real, substantiated argument that what I am stating is not a problem? I assume that you have extensive experience with development for both platforms, so you can give me an example from your own practice :-) Of course, if I don't know the comparison, then it's not a problem - I'll go on vacation with Felda, but driving a BMW, for example, will be better, but I'll be on my own Praise Felda for how great the ride is :-)
mainly from you, they received arguments for what I wrote to you before
You amused me with all that, nitwits like you who heal their complexes in discussions always resort to invectives when they run out of arguments - you didn't disappoint, you really are a piece of troll
E.g. faster app approval is indicative of Android's "security". Also, when the fee itself is low, a large number of scumbag applications get there. Such scumbags then make a little money and get to the App Store and make scumbag Android applications there that none of the Apple users need. Especially the nonsense that advertising in the app is free. It started on Android and it's the biggest stupidity. It has paid, lite and some free apps, no stupid ads that completely destroy the market.
Nice article, thanks for it. As for the discussion, some should think for themselves if they have anything to do. I recommend to others not to argue. Those in question lack arguments, so they just frantically spread half-truths and insult the sheep. Everyone should use what suits them, and if someone is happy with Android, I don't understand their need to vilify iOS, no one is forcing them to. Or is he annoyed that Apple is successful without him? :-)
Thanks for the article. It was nice to remember. I remember how I stared at the first iP, which I knew, like a goose in a bottle. It was something completely new, revolutionary. Even then I was blown away by it.
I would leave the -war- user alone. An angry reaction is exactly what he wants. And it doesn't make sense, he doesn't want to hear the truth.
I have to admit that I haven't come across a person with more complexes than the user -war- in a long time. I dream about the fact that even in this day and age, people really need to argue that his system or phone is better. Everyone has what they want, and the fact that this person got on the Jablickar website shows the big problem he has inside of him. I'm actually quite sorry for him and I hope he grows up as soon as possible and realizes that there are more important things in the world. Otherwise, the first iPhone was a big revolution for me, that suddenly someone showed something that I had never seen before and couldn't imagine that this is what a phone would look like. Something that would change the phone market so much will probably not happen for a few more years.
First of all, I thank the author for an interesting article.
So, friends, I use both of the platforms that are so at odds here (iPhone 4 and Nexus7 tablet) and I can tell you that they are completely equal in terms of maturity, but today you can see how they differ more and more from each other.
The article describes what Google already had ready for its system, so it certainly did not "copy" everything from the iPhone later, but everyone simply had to be inspired by such an original and innovative solution as the iPhone - as always happens in every industry - someone is a leader and the others are watching what he came up with and then trying to catch up.
Lately, however, it seems to me that Android is taking the lead. After all, for example, iOS 7 brought (if I leave out the graphics) only what Android was already capable of, Android is ahead of iOS in many useful functionalities. Google is coming up with facial unlocking for M devices, smart glasses, Google Now cards, and other innovations, and I'm watching carefully to see if Apple has left us in the ideological quagmire after the departure of the great visionary Jobs. I hope not - I like the iPhone. In addition, I believe that competition is healthy, and despite a positive relationship with Android, I do not want it to be a monopoly. Good evening everyone!
Discussion like on Novyky :D It used to be like a family here and once in a while Radek Hulán wrote us a post for fun...