Apple CEO Tim Cook said last week about the iPad Pro that it is a laptop or desktop replacement for many people. Apple's professional tablet combines a tablet, a full-sized keyboard and an Apple Pencil stylus in one product, making it very similar to Microsoft's Surface device. O Surface Book hybrid laptop also from Microsoft, but Cook stated that it is a product that tries to be both a tablet and a laptop and successfully fails to be either. The iPad Pro, on the other hand, is supposed to exist in parallel with the Mac.
In an interview with the Irish Independent Cook denied, that the end of traditional computers like Macs would be near. "We feel strongly that customers are not looking for a Mac/iPad hybrid," Cook said. “Because what that would do, or what we fear would happen, is that neither experience would be as good as the users want. So we want to create the best tablet in the world and the best Mac in the world. By combining both, we would achieve neither. We would have to make various compromises.'
A week earlier, Cook in an interview for The Daily Telegraph he also talked about the fact that the usefulness of computers is already in the past. “When you look at a PC, why would you ever buy a PC again? No, seriously, why would you buy one?” But it's clear from his statement that he was referring to Windows computers, not Apple ones. "We don't think of Macs and PCs as the same thing," he said. So it seems that in Tim Cook's eyes, the iPad Pro is replacing Windows PCs, but not Macs.
Cook says both Macs and iPads have a strong future ahead of them, despite the iPad Pro's high computing and graphics performance, which surpasses most PCs. But Apple is aware that both devices have their specific uses. Therefore, the plan is not to combine OS X and iOS, but to bring their parallel use to perfection. The company tries to achieve this with functions such as Handoff.
At least for the time being, the hybrid facility in Cupertino is not emerging. In short, the iPad Pro is supposed to be a more productive tablet. At the same time, Apple relies mainly on developers, thanks to which this device can become a truly unrivaled tool for professionals, especially creative people.
I don't know. Now I'm sitting at a normal desktop. I have a 24 inch monitor, backlit keyboard. A comfortable mouse. An almost inaudible crate under the table. I have a mug of coffee next to me. I drink when I want. I type practically blindly on a full-sized keyboard. My computer has 16GB of RAM, a 4GHz quad core and an SSD drive. All instant. Quality crates attached. I am sitting on a high-quality ergonomic chair. I work with full desktop applications. This way I can work for hours. Can someone explain to me why I would be hunched over a chair or god forbid holding a tablet in my hand and risking cervical spine damage or a headache? Desktop forever for me.
What you describe is only an advantage of a 24″ monitor. Who prevents you from connecting the mentioned monitor to your laptop?
He may want better performance and a high-quality computer for significantly less money than a laptop with similar parameters. I'm not even saying that sometimes a laptop can't compete with the best assembled PC.
But iMac or MacPro also have the advantages he writes. The iPad Pro is something else entirely. but it is true that there will be a full-fledged system missing from all apple devices the most. It depends not only on the developers, how they manage to deliver their applications on the ipad, but also on apple. Because iOS is certainly not adapted for iPad pro yet. If I'm not a creative person who needs to draw, then in this size I can carry a macbook with the fact that I can also run professional applications there, dig into any file, etc.
What I enjoy the most is how in these kinds of articles someone always appears with seven monitors, 32 gb of ram, eight ghz connected to hi-fi, etc. It's just that Apple offers a different line of products for you and I'll be ahead if I write yes, of course for different money.
He probably lives somewhere in his own world.
Sure, better to sell a tablet for 30 and a laptop for 60k than something in between for 40k.
the guy is completely out of line if he means it…. he only sees dollars
that people from Apple are still taken seriously at all, it's all marketing, as has been repeatedly shown. one year you say that what the competition is doing is stupid, and the next they start doing it themselves. the third year they say that the pc era is over and the fourth edition of the new PC :]
Cook is right that for people who today use a PC for e-mail, photos, Facebook and the browser, a tablet or a small laptop might be enough (writing on a tablet is a horror), but for most working people there is no other choice than Windows.
there are no applications on Apple that are sufficient for professionals and that will not change just like that.
and the man below is right about the ergonomics. a laptop can save it only in the style that you connect a monitor, mouse and keyboard and cases to it, and in that case you use almost nothing from the laptop and you can immediately buy a desktop :]
and you can buy a better desktop than from Apple, you practically have the best to choose from and you don't have to limit yourself to just one brand. ... so eizo monitors, lenovo keyboards, the rest is almost completely irrelevant, especially if you throw an ssd into the PCI slot and you have a disk about 8x faster than what apple installs in the computer :D... and doesn't it look as nice as the garbage from apple? I don't know, but my PC is under the table where I can't see it, because the table is a place for work and a box full of electronics has nothing to do there. so even if I had a trash can from Apple, it will still be under the table where it won't get in the way and can't be seen... just my opinion :)
Look, sorry, but the overwhelming, overwhelming majority of people who use it as a browser, mail, fb and photo viewer. And the external keyboard is simply used. And if MSC continues to develop applications as it has been, then those working with you will have a choice that they did not have until now.
microsoft is doing well, for the fact that it has 90 percent or so of the market, so we definitely don't hear that often that it is some kind of "shit" born from the new osX, quite the contrary, even the start menu is faster than before, that is, in in the opposite direction than apple goes
and I understand that the vast majority of people don't work on a PC, but if they ever have to work, they mostly need Windows for that, the others just as well get by with Android because the "home grown" is enough for that
I must have missed something when Apple built the PC. And Apple started deploying SSD as one of the first.
well, you probably missed a lot, but let me educate you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_computer
Oh, you mean Mac. ☺️
"there are no applications on Apple that would be sufficient for a professional"
I'm afraid you have no idea what you're talking about here. There are a number of professional applications on OS X that often reach a higher level than what is available for Windows. When, for example, I process a 20 GB file in Photoshop without nerves under Windows, then I will consider it as something more than a game launcher. And, of course, it's also good for Office and for accountants, so I don't offend. The only professional area where Windows has the upper hand is software for engineers/designers.
office, programming tools, 3d tools, engineering software, simulation software, statistical software, a large amount of software for business hardware (printers, etc.) - I'm not talking about drivers, accounting software, logistics optimization tools,... you know sir, I've been in IT for over 20 years as a consultant and I have met almost everywhere in the IT field,... mac people use for graphics, sometimes music or web coding (I don't even call it programming) or ios application,... this is a very small part of the market and roughly reflects the distribution of osX and windows, although the vast majority of people with osX also have windows at the same time, so we can say that the real penetration of windows is even higher. when you buy anything, you need a book or a CD with the software... so you simply won't be able to run it on osX 90 percent of the time, and that's what people are dealing with :] (besides the fact that many people who have tried the new windows from version 7 see that they are windows better than macOS)
anyway, the file size limit in adobe photoshop is given by the memory size. A Windows PC has this limit higher than anything sold by Apple. on the other hand, I would be interested, because I have not encountered this anywhere, what is your use case for a 20GB file in photoshop? It really suits me, it would have to be full-layer x 15, a billboard... I'd like to learn, thanks
Unfortunately, I can't blame your 20-year consulting activity being so limited by the local pond (see your obsession with market share). I have yet to see a person who chooses a platform based on the fact that they don't like a CD with SW from a book, but let's face it... according to you, you've seen a lot, and I've heard a lot, but not this yet. But I can understand and feel from you that as an IT consultant you know everything and have been everywhere twice, they are the best, especially for the position of consultant they are the most suitable.
No one is denying Windows their wiring into business solutions, that's somehow given historically. But a complex business infrastructure where the train doesn't run through Windows, because it's usually some prehistoric patchwork of everything, doesn't represent an environment where productivity and quality of work come first. The values that the company can sell are created elsewhere, far from all those evaluators, graph masters, PowerPoint wizards and other creators of papers for papers. You started about the professionals, so please stick with them. And in such a deployment, Windows only have an advantage at the designer/engineer level, and that's solely because of the applications, not the quality of the platform.
I don't dispute the fact that since Windows 7 we have a creation here that no longer crashes at every bad look, but unfortunately its work with resources is pathetic and can only be satisfied for the deployment that is enough for ordinary office workers and other recipients of salary for the time spent and drunken coffee. The file size limit isn't really set, at least on Windows, by RAM size, because Windows is so incompetent that it can't breathe anyway, even if it has more than enough resources. So look for the buried dog in their architecture. Unfortunately, the fact that Win dug themselves out of the mud and is standing in a puddle does not mean that they are suddenly the best in the world for critical deployment, they still have a long way to go and unfortunately MS is not solving it, rather it is currently floundering with tiles. I understand that Windows 7 is a great system for you as an IT consultant, because you have some driver from a hundred-year-old printer and you have to deal with that mess called ActiveDirectory, domain policy and all that jungle around, unfortunately for me it's a nightmare. A system that can't even do something as trivial as finding a file on disk, a system that can't delete a file it created because it says it contains illegal characters(!), a system that collapses as it fills up a system drive, a system where there is no such thing as cross-application scripting, task automation that makes work brutally easy, etc. really won't be the best system even if you've been a consultant for 40 years. Whenever I'm forced to sit at a Win machine and finish something complex on it for prepress, I'll curse it to the fifth knee and if you're asking about 20 GB PSD, then yes, it's a billboard, although I don't see why it matters. It's a legitimate use, and one platform handles it with ease, the other on the edge of usability. No need to add more.
so thank you billboard
otherwise, it's vague fluff, partly related to outdated versions of Windows, accusing Adobe of not being able to provide a stable Photoshop for Windows (the new Windows have good memory management, I currently have a 17 gigabyte database running in my memory and I don't test Windows, so it's definitely not their fault: ) and otherwise ignorance of powershell, python and automata
but I get it, as a graphic designer, you don't know your way around and you probably use familiar environments, which is fine, and for graphics, the mac is fine... (almost everywhere else, not as I wrote, so I agree with you that you are in the minority for whom a mac it makes sense (and for people who only have it on FB and zena.cz and mail))
btw, today I was forced to watch a person who had a problem printing a document from Word 2016 on Windows, when he was trying to figure out how to do it, he commented with the words ... "oh yeah, Windows..", when I asked if the person had a MAC at home the person said yes,... in my mind I thought that Windows is not responsible for this at all, that the person does not know how to print from Word (not to mention that he does not know the basic ctrl+p), and that these people are often completely wrong with the fact that they weigh their incompetence and lack of education on Windows...but I didn't teach anyone it's a waste of time
Powershell, automaton… and should I start laughing now or when you give me a signal? Maybe there is some hidden purpose in the joke, so I ask. These are not tools, but toys for our Duck. Especially the automation, which does not even reach the ankles in terms of complexity and flexibility of such an Automator under OS X. After all, it is very typical for Windows, there are a number of glued-on replacements for adult tools found at a neighbor's house, and unfortunately it all looks like that. But I understand that as a win user you have a rather limited idea about these things and their use.
The story with Word seems off topic to me, but if you have something else fun, feel free to share. The rest is probably better without comment.
You know what, I made your incompetence or lying (only you know which option is correct) clear with your confirmation that you need those 20GB PSDs for the billboard :), which of course is nonsense and I think that anyone who does something for print media he laughed at that
I take anything else from you as a person who blindly defends his system and make up his own mind, we've exhausted the topic, we both said what we wanted, the other visitors to the discussion will certainly make up their own minds and with this I say goodbye, see you on another topic on the local server :)
I find it somewhat comical that a person who writes nonsense already in the first post of this thread is calling me a liar. Well, you'll get a little more. As an IT consultant, an expert in everything and nothing, you surely have a crystal ball and know what PSD was talking about. I was also pleased.
so I understand that consultants do not have a good reputation, especially those 25-year-old guys who leave school without any experience and immediately want to advise someone, but just as a musician is not a musician, a consultant is not a consultant either
and I'm sorry, but I don't care what kind of billboard it was. billboards in general are not printed in high resolution like the rest of printed matter, because they are intended for observation from a distance (the term higher resolution is not accurate here, because the file is about transferring graphics to paper in a certain number of ink dots). therefore, with a little exaggeration, I can say that A4 for a high-quality magazine will be similar in size to a billboard in PSD. certainly not in tens of GB.
of course you can artificially increase it to GB, or rather try to do it in normal resolution like the other printed materials, then you will probably get there, but in that case you are not a competent graphic artist because no one will print it for you under the given parameters, so you are actually doing work that no one will pay you for and which no one needs. so you are either incompetent, or primarily delusional because there is no such PSD. you chose in the last post that I called you a liar, so I assume that there really isn't such a PSD and that's why you're definitely a liar and you shouldn't be angry with me for that, your fingers wrote that lie
and what about my previous post when I didn't feel like answering you one morning. I am personally of the opinion that the automaton (in the current version 10) is a stronger tool than your automator. it works beautifully with powershell, which is the gateway to the .net world where you can do anything you can think of, and if you easily need to connect it to various utilities that are clouds from the open source world, I recommend python, where you can glue it together in a few minutes (they like it especially Linux, it will work for you on osX too) / I will say that all these tools are much more powerful for automation, but he is rich, most people are enough with automation (although no one in the field knows much about him, except IT managers who use it with pleasure)
I feel like you've already said goodbye, haven't you? Otherwise, I didn't see your arguments = lie, it's really amazing. 20GB files are not a problem to come across, especially if you have materials from photographers who do commercials and fashion, which is common for many posters. The output on the printer is something completely different, and I never wrote that I meant the resulting file. I am no longer interested in talking with Mr. Competent Know-It-All, I am already tired of your constructions and meaningless deductions.
you know, just a "couple" of years ago, you would have sat at the computer with scissors, pencil, paper and glue
today you use a computer to work as a graphic designer, but it is still the work of a graphic designer
It seems to me as if the accountant, because she works on a PC, suddenly started to turn herself into a professional on computers in general
stick to what you understand, feel free to voice your opinion, but with your limited perspective you prefer to avoid any deeper discussion, at least from the position of someone who pretends to know what he's talking about
The warm Cock just keeps talking about how I'm working on everything properly to bring it to perfection, but I can only see that the further they go, the more they release everything with errors, untuned, non-functional. Rather than rainbow marches, they should focus on making Apple the company it was under Jobs!