Ondrej Holzman Shortly after the end of yesterday's keynote, where Apple introduced several new products, Ina Friend, editor, caught up All Things D server, Phil Schiller to ask him a few questions.
The new iPhone 5 although it brought several novelties, Apple somewhat omitted two technologies that were quite widely speculated about in its phone - NFC, which has, for example, the Samsung Galaxy S III, and wireless charging, as introduced by Nokia with the Lumia 920.
While the second mentioned technology was not considered much, NFC was quite realistically discussed in connection with the iPhone. Many people saw NFC as a great addition to the Passbook app, which collects various vouchers, tickets and flights. However, Apple decided otherwise.
According to Phil Schiller, one of Apple's vice presidents, Passbook can already do everything a customer needs, so NFC is not a necessity. "It's unclear if NFC even solves any current problem," Schiller said after the keynote at the Yerba Buena Center. "Passbook can do things that people need today."
As for wireless charging, Schiller noted that such charging stations still need to be connected to the network, so the question is whether such a solution is even more convenient. "Creating another device that you have to plug in is much more complicated in most cases.” stated Schiller, stating that current USB chargers can be used in classic sockets, but also in computers or airplanes.
Schiller also commented on why Apple, after nearly a decade of using the 30-pin connector in most iPhones and iPods, made the switch and introduced the Lightning connector in the iPhone 5 and the new iPod touch. The reason is simple - Apple had to come up with a new connector, because the old one was already too big and did not allow to create such thin products. However, Schiller is clear about Lightning, as the new 8-pin connector is called: "This is a new connector for many years to come."
Source: AllThingsD.com
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NFC is really just bullshit, but wireless charging is the bomb - could have saved a lot of space etc. This is a misstep!
And how would they please save that space?? Lack of connector?? It wouldn't be a mistake, otherwise I wouldn't be able to charge my phone, for example, on a plane... Well, I don't know how they would save the space if there would also have to be a coil in the iPhone that would receive energy...
Wireless. nab. it's bullshit, I can already see how someone pulls the pad somewhere... The first week it would be fun for people and then it gets worse... The cable is fine, I have one at home, then at work, in the car... And now I have a problem with the new connector, but what can I do? it is a development…
I don't think about NFC, I didn't need it then, and the iPh5 will be on the market for only one year, like the previous one. models, i.e. that most people will buy iPh5s and it will be there... but I'm still not sure about the use and functionality, so I understand that it's not there.
But this opinion is based on the mistaken idea that the phone can only be charged wirelessly. The cable can be left in the car, etc., but wireless would be invaluable at home or in the office on the table... You just come to the table, drop the phone on the mat and it starts charging... When someone calls, you don't have to disconnect anything, you just pick up the phone and that's it...
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And, Another piece of HW…
B, I wrote that the port would have to be preserved anyway ;)
C, If someone came up with a standard for wireless charging that would be power efficient and devices for spreading energy could be bought anywhere and only support would be added to the phone, something like when a mobile phone has BT or WiFi, why not... everyone would he bought that pad according to his and the iPhone Xy would only have support for AirCharge or something like that :D and then Apple would release a single AirCharge product (as a sample: that's how it should look) and sell it for 99 USD :D classic price.
Leave the tossing to dream for now. You'll still need to place the phone relatively precisely for charging to be effective. Instead, get a stand into which the phone can easily be inserted (so that you can almost throw it there).
Otherwise, I have to praise them a little for the connector (even if it's not standard (!) microUSB). The ability to slide it in from both sides is great. Be sure to look at phones with microUSB, how they are scratched around the connector.
PS: In addition, the wireless charger is actually an electrical transmitter. mg. radiation. I don't know if the extra movement (inserting the connector) is worth having another radio in my house...
It's not that big of a deal. NFC (RFID)-like technology has been working reliably in universities for several years (lunch payment, photocopying, access to classrooms).
I can really imagine a lot of uses for NFC in everyday life.
Similar, but incompatible, so useless…
That's not true at all.. It's compatible..:-)
Yes, wireless charging is a nice thing, but a couple of facts: to transmit a relatively large charging current, the coil in the phone would have to be quite large, and then of course any larger metal (aluminum) part is a problem.
Would you wash an iPhone made of plastic? I don't, so I prefer hearing material over wireless charging.
NFC will soon be a standard, and it's special that they're missing here.
I will definitely laugh if there is NFC in some other iPhone and they will present it as if they thought about it from the beginning.
But they will come up with it. They're just waiting for it to really spread.
Honestly… the lack of NFC was very disappointing and quite messed up my plans…. I thought of a few ways to use it ;)
Oh and BTW... "This is a new connector for many years to come." is quite a bold statement, so they want to achieve a minimum iPhone thickness of only approx. 3.8mm in the following years because it won't go any lower because of the connector... That's not exactly ambitious, in my opinion Lightning is still quite a thick connector with its approx. 3,54 x 9,17mm. But they definitely have a ooooobbbbrrrr plus for the ability to connect both sides... there is not a day when I plug the connector in backwards :D and it's not because I don't know where it belongs, but maybe I plug it in after dark etc... and it's really hard to know where it belongs...
Lightning is always in the new iPods and they are significantly narrower..
In addition, the lightning is even narrower than the 3,5 mm jack, which I would not want to reduce, but it will most likely be reduced in other models:/
Well, the hole is narrower, but the connector also has a border around it, which adds a bit of thickness. Anyway, I didn't think that the jack would be a problem soon ;) it will be interesting to watch, because no smaller jack has ever taken off in history, like Nokia's minijack. Well, Apple will come up with some kind of nanoJACK and it will be a hit ;)... I would say that the new connector is about as big as the sleep button.
I would even put my hand in the fire for removing the jack and having headphones connected to the main connector (they already indicated this by putting the jack down next to the connector so that people start getting used to the fact that from now on they will stick headphones in there from the bottom) , and then the JACK-2-Lighttning reduction for neapple headphones will simply be sold. I personally would be a supporter of such a solution, not only do I have high-quality BT headphones and I don't even listen to much music from the iPhone, but above all I have never had other than Apple headphones, and if there was a reduction, I don't see a problem. Then only if it should be charged at the same time, but that could easily be solved if the charger had a hole at the bottom near the jack port;) simply moving the jack outside the phone, saving space and less hole.
I completely agree with that jack.. I also have bluetooth headphones, it's better than wires :) at least I don't have to have my phone in my pocket and worry that it will lean against something somewhere at work and so on.. and it can climb in peace.. and with that reduction it I can also see that if it is part of the package, it is not a problem :) ...
Having a phone as thin as 3,8mm is pretty silly.
Well, what... they keep getting thinner and thinner, so who knows where it will end...
Soon the thickness will be negative! :D
NFC still has some Friday time to be everywhere and Apple to integrate it into the iPhone. He will do it, but only when it is important for him as well (fee). Wireless charging is a nice feature, but I would probably only use it at home anyway. Certainly not at work, because I certainly don't have the place for that...
Even when Palm introduced it, I thought it was nice, but impractical, just remember charging cradles from, for example, Alcatel - impractical...
NFC is clear. It would be expensive and difficult to cram into such a thin phone. They will wait for technology to advance. For now, they will claim that there is no need (haha). Just like it's nonsense to make a phone with a 16:9 aspect ratio, isn't it, Apple? :D
It's still the same Gestapo procedure we're used to. Apple dictates to us what is good for us... "Passbook can do the things that people need today." Such arrogance!
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So I do not know. Nokia has had NFC in the C7 model since the beginning, and even though I have it in my hand every day, I've never needed it, and I personally don't know anyone around me who would talk about it as if it's necessary. I can imagine wireless charging in a plastic phone, but not in an aluminum body.
NFC standard... dit couldn't even get it started, so why should they solve this? Yes, it will start in CZ, but it would soon be standard, but time will tell... Wirelessly charged... I think I'd trade it for an advisory flashlight that will last a bit...
"NFC standard... even google couldn't get it started" seeing that you probably never got further than the Czech border... if you were in America you would see how far google has taken it... payment via NFC is literally everywhere...
Thumbs down for that NFC :-(((( That would be the bomb. First, the payments and then also all the entrance cards, lunch cards. For students to the canteen, ISIC, etc. etc. It would be enough to ensure advisory security. What would be done But I'm afraid of 8-O on jailbroken devices
Why? Because you can do everything on Android.. Nothing worse could happen for sure..:-)
Thumbs down for that NFC :-(((( That would be the bomb. First, the payments and then also all the entrance cards, lunch cards. For students to the canteen, ISIC, etc. etc. It would be enough to ensure advisory security. What would be done But I'm afraid of 8-O on jailbroken devices
If my 4 doesn't protest, I'll wait for the 5S - it might already have NFC and maybe it will spread in the Czech Republic. If the four says goodbye to me prematurely, I might try another platform.
I consider wireless charging to be an absolute waste.
these are arguments like MMS and we know how it turned out...
These are embarrassing excuses. Software Pasbook has hardware NFC capabilities, no matter how Apple pushes it in America. For discussion: Just because we don't have extended payments via NFC, doesn't mean that it doesn't in the US either. NFC can also be used for gadgets other than payment. The price of the NFC chip is extremely low (only tokens), no license either, and with the margin that Apple has, completely irrelevant. And that he wouldn't fit in there? After all, the NFC chip is already in micro sd cards.
if they are not afraid of safety. to whom, maybe you can already solve his support and security in the meantime. imagine what will happen if someone with nfc has a jailbreak at the same time...
and fm radio again not
If I have to carry a huge plate on which I put my mobile phone and basically I won't be able to pick it up and use it normally, or a smaller adapter that I plug into the phone... For me, the choice is clear
NFC mobile payments seem useless to me, the only thing I would appreciate is RFID, which could replace a few cards... but for that you can buy an nfc sticker for 15 CZK and hide the iPhone under your back and voila, I don't need an access card to work, plus I don't need keep my cell phone charged so I don't stand at the gatehouse, I think I know how to solve it ;)