Michal Marek MacBook Pro you would after a long time it deserved a proper update and new rumors suggest that she will indeed get it. The good news is that, apparently, it won't just be about installing a new processor and increasing performance. A brand new machine with the potential to amaze is about to come into the world.
Prominent analyst Ming-Chi Kuo from the company KGI Securities and other server resources 9to5Mac agree that the new MacBook Pro is expected to arrive in the last quarter of this year, but it should be thinner and lighter, and in terms of technology, it should be enriched with a Touch ID sensor and a new OLED display used as a control panel located above the keyboard. The changes should concern the 13- and 15-inch model from this series.
The aforementioned OLED control panel is supposed to replace the classic function keys. However, it is not yet very clear what added value it will bring. But how he pointed out Mark Gurman, it would be easier for Apple to add new functions to OS X and with them special buttons, for example for Siri. As for ports, the new MacBook Pros are supposed to bring modern connectivity in the form of USB-C and Thunderbolt 3 ports.
In addition to the new MacBook Pros, Apple is also expected to introduce a 13-inch variant of the MacBook with a Retina display in the fourth quarter, complementing the 12-inch model that was launched this year received an increase in performance. According to Kuo, the MacBook Air will remain in the menu act as an "entry" model at an affordable price. MacBooks with a Retina display will be the middle ground, and MacBook Pros will remain the line for the most demanding users.
Rumors surfaced this month that Apple will offer the ability to unlock Macs through Touch ID on the iPhone in a future software update. Now it looks like future MacBooks will also have their own fingerprint sensor, which does not mean that unlocking through the iPhone's Touch ID could not be made available by Apple as part of OS X 10.12 and iOS 10. We could expect the introduction of this feature in three weeks at the WWDC developer conference.
touch id? it was about time..
I thought of adding touch id to macbooks as soon as the news came out that apple is preparing a similar function. Otherwise, I'm looking forward to the new macbooks, but the diagonal size still doesn't make sense to me.. 12 inches and then 13?? I don't know, 12,14, 14 macbooks, 16, XNUMX macbook pro would make sense to me
I have a new MB Retina 13 and I wouldn't change even because of TID. But if the new one is half as thin and lighter, I will be annoyed. :)
The Retina Macbook could easily be 12″ and 14″ -> who wanted a larger diagonal and at the same time a small Macbook, would choose 14″, and the pros, for whom 13″ would not be enough, would easily go for 15″. That sounds like a pretty motivating tactic for Apple. :)
I doubt it will be half as thin and light. Rather, I think the performance increase will be noticeable. Otherwise, next time I recommend consulting the website about the purchase http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#Mac ;-)
But then again, I wouldn't be completely negative. Today's Macbook Pros are beautiful machines. :-)
Thanks for your tip anyway.
I dare to say that I can choose (not like an Apple Product Professional) - the current Prochko is absolutely ideal for my work.. :)
The weight was just taken as a joke. Compared to my previous Air 11, the MBP 13 is a breeze :)
Personally, I would especially like it if the 13″ model also got dedicated graphics in a higher configuration. I see no reason why he shouldn't have it and why he doesn't if it's a Pro. Not everyone wants a 15″ sail, but they want dedicated graphics, even far more subtle laptops have that. But it is clear to me that I will rather see an "incredibly thin" design and a pink color, which is of course very important for the Pro model... Otherwise, Touch ID is fine, I consider some kind of OLED display to be bullshit, the keyboard layout should be preserved on all Macs as well, and not replace the buttons with nonsense.
The Retina Macbook could easily be 12″ and 14″ -> who wanted a larger diagonal and at the same time a small Macbook, would choose 14″, and the pros, for whom 13″ would not be enough, would easily go for 15″. That sounds like a pretty motivating tactic for Apple. :)
I have a new MB Retina 13 and I wouldn't change even because of TID. But if the new one is half as thin and lighter, I will be annoyed. :)
Well, hooray, I'm waiting for Touch ID like mercy. It would also be great if the new Macbooks had a SIM card slot, similar to what the iPads have.
They won't have that.. Even iPhones are speculated to be SIM-free
Touch ID??? And what is it for? The first thing I turn off… And I sure hope the moronic “functional” OLED above the keyboard is a hoax… :(
I like Touch ID, and I would welcome it, but I also wouldn't want an OLED display instead of functional keys.
Libor, those who understand a bit of security know why and what TID. Then there are those who do not think for themselves and live in confused ideas.
Those who understand security know why PIn is more secure than touch id.
If they kept the properly discounted MacBook as the "entry" model, gave the Air Retina and only made the MacBook Pro lighter, they would have done better, come up with innovations at any cost... Dedicated graphics for the 13" Pro is something to consider, I don't need it for work, and Intel graphics for normal sometimes gaming is enough...
As for the dedicated graphics, since the 13" doesn't offer it (and it actually only has 2 CPU cores compared to the 15" model), it basically looks like a "thicker Air with retina" to me. If you don't want extra graphics, you don't have to have it and save money, nothing would change here, but in short, that option should be available in the Pro series in the more expensive variant, just as it is in the 15″ model. Unfortunately, I have the experience that integrated graphics struggle with multiple monitors, I feel that it is suffocating. I'm not even interested in games personally. I consider connecting external monitors to be a common use for the MacBook Pro, and thanks to the fact that the 15″ video outputs with dedicated graphics are handled by the MacBook Pro, there are no performance problems.
I don't mind any news in the form of Touch ID or a functional OLED display above the keyboard... But thinning? This is a real bummer because I want a laptop that I can do almost everything on. This way it will overheat unnecessarily. In addition, a classic USB will certainly not fit there, and since I service everything related to PCs and Macs, I simply need it every day. I already have to carry the Rj45 adapter with me... So the new MacBook will probably be of no use to me.
Like maybe do it right. Pro is supposed to be Pro.. The current Pro is sufficiently light and thin.... who wants thinner than that, here is the classic macbook.
I absolutely agree. In terms of performance and portability, the current form of the MBP 13″ is still several orders of magnitude ahead of branded PC "plastics" of the same category. A "pro" product should mainly be stable and reliable, innovations for innovation's sake usually only complicate things unnecessarily. For myself, for example, I would rather have a TPM chip than Touch ID and touch OLED. The main thing is to keep at least standard USB, possibly TB, and if USB-C, then as another connector, not as (God forbid a single) replacement for all. Likewise, MagSafe is a reliable and proven solution that has saved my MBP several times already... ;)
Totally agree. I have a 15″ MPB and I wouldn’t change. It would be thinner at the expense of performance. For example, Touch ID in one key would be nice, but you can do without it. Above all, let them not do crap that will bury the best category of laptops. And as far as OSX is concerned, I would like it if they were the first to fix the bugs that are in the current ones. They focused on building the programmer and user base and the reliability that was inherent in OSX before the arrival of Mavericks and successors…
What bothers me the most about the annual release of OS X is that as soon as a new version is released, the "old" one is thrown out. Only security updates are released, but the system as such is no longer tuned, although there is obviously still work to be done. So none of the latest versions were actually ever really finished. If they absolutely need to release it every year, let them do it for me for me, but let them also finish the divided work on the previous version, there are still a lot of people on the Mac who still need to work.
I'm not an early adopter, I used Leopard, then Snow Leopard, then nothing for a long time and now Mavericks, I'm guessing the next version will be hot a few generations later.
The touch OLED display above the keyboard is just the beginning. In other models, there will no longer be a mechanical keyboard, but a touch OLED - it will be amazing how it will be written... Quo vadis Apple?
So I'll join in here too: Why on earth is it thinner and lighter? Managers should buy an oversized iPhone for emails, spreadsheets and presentations. But for those of us who use laptops for real work, for God's sake, let them leave proper HW.
A month ago my 6 year old MBP17 gave up and I had to buy a new one immediately.
The only choice is the MBP15 (the variously enlarged iPhones really don't satisfy me). I bought the top of the line model (not custom, Apple can't deliver that before a month) and I'm horrified.
As soon as I really start doing anything (SW development, graphics, video or music editing), the fans don't stop even for a moment and the battery lasts for about 3 hours. My previous model MBP17 did better even with a 6 year old battery!!!
And another gem: When I record an instructional video (ScreenFlow), the hum of the fans can be heard in the recording (external microphone solves this).
Such untuned HW for such unchristian money, it's really sad...
Above all, let it not slow down as it did with the arrival of the MacBook, by which they wrote off the excellent MacBook Air series. I don't know personally what to solve for thickness. The difference may be barely a few millimeters, but with performance, it can be quite a turn for the worse. Especially when it comes to cooling.
Touch ID is a good feature, it would be nice to have it, but I would not like it to end up with the reader staring somewhere in the middle of the chassis like a fist in the eye. (Like it is with HP or Lenovo) If they built it inconspicuously into one key...
As for fooling around with an OLED functional display, I'm not a big fan of that. I like the design purity of MBP, Air, and MB, and I don't really see what benefits there would be. I prefer physical keys.
Personally, I don't know why there is such a push to change the MBP design. I have a 15 MBP 2012″ and it looks absolutely luxurious even when compared to last year's or this year's models from other brands. In my opinion, its appearance is simply timeless and I would just like to add some small things - a display with a smaller frame, maybe Touch ID, USB C (add!! don't take away other ports!). What else could you wish for…
Apple should focus on making the system as stable as it used to be, rather than rushing headlong into innovation at any cost, which I feel no one really wants.
Totally agree with everything you wrote!
Macbook sales are falling, so even if you disagree, this is a reality that Apple has to deal with. My personal experience with the Macbook15 was great until I bought a Macbook3 about 12 weeks ago.
So far, I have not noticed any fundamental differences in performance in demanding SW (performance has not increased much over the last 2-3 years, on the contrary, CPU efficiency is desirable), moreover, the SSD is faster, so the system's reactions are subjectively faster than with the 2-year-old Pro15.
On the contrary, I am happy that I can charge the Macbook 12 with a mobile phone charger, i.e. finally one interface for all ways of use, from mobiles to computers. Performance is imho the more irrelevant the part, as well as the number of ports.
Sales falling while waiting for new models is nothing new or strange. Overall, however, MacBooks (Macs) have a relatively steady clientele, so Apple should rather try not to screw things up too much and not bring those people. Anyone who needs to enjoy the new design at all costs, there is already a 12″ MacBook in 4 colors, so let them buy it, charge it with a mobile phone charger (imho completely irrelevant), and enjoy the SSD speed, even if it is just a placebo , because the "faster SSD" mainly manifests itself in sequential reading, which you would perhaps be able to recognize when copying a large file to another equally fast disk, but not in the response of the system or applications, which, on the contrary, work with a number of small files.
So for me, for example, switching to MB12″ would not be conceivable at all. I study architecture and construction and even though I have the most powerful Retina Pro from r2012, which according to Benchmark is only about 15% slower than the current fastest Pro, I am able to load it. I was moving from the fastest Air 2011 and got used to the new power boost immediately. Even with the Quadcore i7, some renders take me 12-16 hours. I can't imagine doing it on anything slower. So, if you went painlessly from MBP15″ to MB12″, you are clearly not the target group for 15″ Pro. CPU efficiency or a few millimeters in thickness doesn't matter to me. If possible, I carry a MacPro :D
I understand, the rendering performance is abysmal, but considering how "often I do it", I don't see it as a major problem. On the contrary, working in After Effects, video editing is comparable to MBPro15 and if I wait a little longer for the result, yes, it's worth the mobility! Carrying a big machine with me every day for two years, including various events, conferences and everywhere fighting for a place to work, simply wasn't the same anymore ;)
You probably didn't export any video, because on a Macbook with Core M the same thing that takes a minute on an MBP15 takes a full 12 minutes on a Macbook45.
well, that apple would slowly catch up with lenovo's competition? :) (you should look at the model x1carbon generation 4 http://www3.lenovo.com/au/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/X1-Carbon-4th-Generation/p/22TP2TXX14G)
touchID = fingerprint reader on the attachment
LED = I think I had generation 2, before they found out that it was stupid (in any case, apple needs to release something with the wow factor and this looks nice)
Great link, the product does not exist. I don't want to thank you, not at all with Windows.
ok, for you without the brackets at the end :)
http://www3.lenovo.com/au/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/X1-Carbon-4th-Generation/p/22TP2TXX14G
Nobody claims that Apple has the best hardware in the notebook field. After all, it's just a design, the rest are conventional components. The problem is that the SW, even with the many errors recently, is on a scale of reliability, ergonomics, intuitiveness and stability from 1-10, somewhere around the number 9, while Windows wobbles between 2-4, depending on how much the sloppy monster is released for sale. So personally, I wouldn't care if Lenovo solved the tasks for me and packed the girls. If it runs on Widly, it would still not work for a while.
but these are not experiences with a top class lenovo laptop and windows 7 or 10.
or if there are, can you tell me what hardware and software and in what way it caused you problems?
I can say with your mac that I cannot install a driver for a printer on the station where the mac is, which could do more than print (scan, fax, send e-mail, nothing works), which practically disqualifies the mac from office work
Windows 10 is a real tragedy. I do not understand this well. Some basic things are not working. E.g. I often create a folder in the dialog for "Save as" and it is not visible until I go there and back again. Multiple monitors (with the latest driver) work poorly. Etc. As soon as I get rid of the laziness, I will downgrade (and of course, I also use OS X, which is much more convenient).
nj if this is not caused by the file user
I don't have a problem with what you say is not possible, I can see the folders from the dialogue and I'm writing this report on a PC with two monitors and also in order. maybe don't use experimental drivers, or don't buy cheap crap :]
blah blah blah. Windows 10 is crap. I have a high end laptop. Two monitors ok, 3 no longer.
So, in order for Windows to run reliably, it must be a TOP class laptop? Ah, so that must be the mistake. – But now seriously: I have experience with Windows up to version 7, when I actively used it, then I switched to Mac and since then I get to Wokny only when I have to.
You are right that many things simply do not work on a Mac - there are no drivers or programs available. Unfortunately, on Windows, sometimes things like the update got stuck and the system rebooted for half a day, or some driver didn't work after the update. Don't tell me that something similar has never happened to you - even a fundamental Windows user will admit this. I'm not saying that Mac doesn't have it, but during the time that I've been using it (first 13″ Air 2011, now 15″ Retina Pro 2012) the system has totally crashed only once.
The differences are even more striking when I compare the old machines. Windows 10 on an old Acer (from the time of Vist – Core2Duo 2.13, upgraded to 4GB RAM, also on SSD) takes almost 2 and a half minutes to load. El Capitan on Air 11" (also Core2Duo 1.8, 2GB RAM, born in 2009 - parameters weaker) will start within 45 seconds. In addition, the W10s are insanely unreliable, they freeze forever on such a weak machine, and if it wasn't for the express wish of the owner, there would already be W7 or Linux.
That's my experience with Windows. Because usually I only get to them when someone says to me 'look, this isn't working for me here, you can fix it'. From such moments, I always have an experience for the next six months. In addition, W8 and W10 are, in my opinion, a gigantic ergonomic fail.
nothing like this has NEVER happened to me since win 7
and yes, the reliability of windows is directly proportional to the quality of the components on which it runs. if someone buys shit hw, it's no wonder that the drivers are crazy about it
I'm seriously trying to remember when I saw an error on my PC and I can't. everything just works for me. no crashes, no virus, no driver incompatibility, nothing.
as for the speed of booting, take a look at some youtube videos. win 10 on comparable hardware boots driv.
and I don't consider acer to be suitable for comparison, I repeat again, business class Lenovo, I would put my hand in the fire for a desktop, maybe even a dell and that's all. max, if someone knows PC then custom build (I need that)
I really wonder what people are doing with it, that their machines break down so much. maybe it's because they install some crap on it (typically an antivirus and a firewall, and they don't even turn off the default one) and then wonder :] I don't see. at work, where we have 12 of them, no one has any problems, so I assume that the problems are caused only by unprofessional intervention and the installation of some shit, which means that the user is typically responsible for it himself.
as well as the ergonomics. Apple users usually work on a laptop with a touchpad. gestures, cape, clicks. poweruser on windows works on the keyboard. needed when I want to run word or chrome. I press the winkey, write word and enter. and I have released word. I write chr and enter instead of word, and Chrome starts. app launched within 1 second. manipulation of windows and surfaces, again winkey and arrows, or winkey and M, etc. much faster than with the touchpad and gestures. ergonomics is subjective. in any case, when I see someone working on a laptop, I automatically lose the ability to call myself a professional. a professional works on a desktop where he has much higher efficiency and if he moves between the office and home, he should have 2 stations. but it doesn't matter :] (of course there are exceptions)
btw, on a quadcore i7 with ssd, it takes me about 8 seconds to load Windows :], or to whom if not driv. there is still a chance that it takes 8 seconds for the graphics to wake up, because I don't even see the last boot, but that doesn't matter.
My old HP laptop from 2000 also had a reader for God's sake..
Otherwise, the mentioned LENOVO runs on Windows, which it really does NOT. And by the way, I wouldn't try the design either.
you see, apple comes to the reader 16 years later, it seems quite a long time to me too
as for windows, it's a subjective opinion, I wouldn't bite OS X either
although the tendency of Windows development is such that each new Windows is faster than the previous one, and Apple goes in the exact opposite direction with its OS
but I understand that some software for editing video and music can only be found on a Mac, so why not, and if you want real work, you can always use virtualization there :)
But you present it here as if the reader is a benchmark of technological maturity or something like that. If Apple wanted the reader earlier, it would have put it there earlier, it has no telling value that you are trying to brandish here. Or do you think that Apple failed to put a reader before now and HP did in 2000? ;-)
It's subjective, but I don't go to forums about Windows laptops and write in the discussions "buy Apple, they had that connector/reader/display here a long time ago." :D
I wonder how a person who has not tried using Mac OS can evaluate each new version of Mac OS. For example, I use both platforms. I've always found Windows to be relatively fast because I've always had an expensive PC, so since XP-Vist I don't have a problem with speed. Mac OS is snappy as well. Both come quickly to me, I don't see a problem with that.
Otherwise, I do "real work" on a Mac, as you try to pejoratively (or what you mean by that) write.
Well, you see, the point of what I wrote is that Apple is no longer a trendsetter and new, but only adds things that it should have been able to do a long time ago
for how many device models it has, it updates them 3x slower than the competition, which has far more devices
if we remove the used os (technically, windows is better than osX at the moment, but that doesn't matter), then the lenovo I'm sending must use much better technology than the macbook. it is true that the user will pay for it
anyway, I'm writing this to help open the eyes of the local audience a little. Apple doesn't make the best hardware anymore, and if you spent as much time learning how to work with windows as with OSX, you'll see that even Windows is better.
the only people for whom it makes sense are people who don't want to learn anything new, have bought applications that are not for windows, or web/iOS developers where the difference is not so important
And the proof of that statement is the fingerprint reader. God bless you. ;-)
I'm so glad he has fewer devices that last. It has countless benefits.
This is probably as similar as when someone with Android convinces you that it is better than iPhone because it has 8 CPU cores, etc., etc., that the system is worse to control, that it still freezes, lags, slows down after half a year, etc., etc. .This is a measurement for geeks who may not see how it is controlled in real life and are more interested in the paper data. Example - I have a Macbook Air from 2011. On paper, a completely outdated machine, not competitive these days. A friend bought a current PC laptop last month for 20k and for example scrolling websites on the touchpad against my Macbook is absolutely appalling. It can't even do such a basic thing comparably. Even his phone responds better and more smoothly to scrolling gestures, etc. His battery really doesn't last as long as mine. It heats up a lot more and the fans interfere terribly with mine. The keyboard is much less comfortable. And the display? Again, the paper is much better resolution than mine, but the real picture? Tragedy against my Macbook. As a result, it has better parameters of the laptop, which would be a step backwards for me. So I hope you understand what I'm talking about.
So from my point of view yes - Apple makes the best hw. I'm not saying that another company can't build a comparable model, sometimes they really do. But it is a complete exception in the company's portfolio of dozens of machines. While Apple makes a few pieces that you can't miss anywhere. Each one is carefully engineered to last for many, many years - an example of my laptop which has been on sale since 2010 and seems to never end.
Otherwise, Windows might be fast too, but we're talking about paper again. Because control, clarity, efficiency of the UI. In my opinion, it gets worse with each new version. The rapid decline of Win 8, but even Win 10 are FAR from comfortable use. It's a mess where Win Vista and Windows Phone are together, terrible. Even Microsoft itself doesn't really know how to make the system, and it is searching and losing itself in it. While before, at least the basic concept was not schizophrenia, it was mouse + keyboard + monitor.
Otherwise, the last paragraph could not possibly emphasize our opposite point of view more. I've always been interested in IT and I love computers, that's why I switched to Mac in 2011 because I wanted to learn something new and get to know a new OS :D
I understand what you're talking about, you're talking about Android phone and Windows computer manufacturers, what are you doing with shops that don't work as they should
apple does not encounter this because no one else is allowed into the ecosystem
when a person buys something with android or windows, he has to buy only quality pieces, typically hiend samsung or lenovo.
but if he does so, he has a quality machine that is comparable, if not better, than its protégés from Apple
as for the scroll and touchpad, you are right that PC manufacturers don't understand why (probably some patent) they don't put very good touchpads in the device. however, the business class lenovo has trackpoints that, after a few days of training and use, are more precise and faster than any touchpad on the market (including the app). but again, rather than ntb from asus, samsung, hpc, or whoever, I prefer ntb from apple with windows. However, I don't see why anyone would do such crap when Lenovo currently makes better hardware
win 10 is better than win 7 and if someone doesn't like the new functions, they can turn them off. they can also be uninstalled from the system if we want to be really hardcore :] and all we have left is the core of the system, which was speed-optimized so that the mobile can tighten it (and the raspberry pi must also tighten it)
it's not a bug, it just wants to know how to use windows. I often encounter at work that when I train new people, they have "bad" habits from osX where they do something unnecessarily complicated, after training it takes a fraction of the time and people change their opinion about Windows. it would also be good for a lot of people who are not familiar with IT to start the introductory training course that is offered and lasts about an hour and a half after installing Windows. then those people would change their minds.
btw, why do you think that MS is lost in this and does not know how to grant the system? the current version (win 10, you keep mentioning windows vista, which is a 5 generation old OS - is it possible that this is your last experience?) is excellent and can do everything (desktop and ntb, I'm not talking about phones, I haven't tried it and it doesn't tempt me)
yes, so what did you learn and what is different about the new OS compared to Windows?
But that's just not true at all. Of course, I have people around me with Android and Windows and I feel the same way and I see it. For example, friends buy a Samsung Galaxy S from the S3 model. Only now with the S7 it seems like it's really smooth and won't slow down (so far it seems). Even the S6 for 20k had it like that. Same HTC hiend phone for 20k. I myself have a lightweight carbon Sony Vaio Pro for 37k as a second laptop. By the way, even it doesn't have comparable gestures and scrolling with an Android phone for 3k :D My friend's Asus Zenbook was still relatively cool, but still lost in comparison. The only thing I consider to be comparable in terms of construction, materials, real comfort of use (noise, battery, keyboard, touchpad, weight) is my friend's Surface 3 from MS. There are comparable models like saffron. I'm not saying they aren't, but Apple is a certainty. In addition, even on the S7 they install adblocks and antiviruses and similar nonsense.
I also have Win 10 on two machines, of course it would be a long discussion of pros/cons, but as a result, OS X is far ahead for me in terms of comfortable and efficient control - just in a nutshell. That is, work with the web, e-mail, calendar, photoshop, work with folders, windows, surfaces, gestures, etc.
It's a matter of perspective - some dialogs and pop-up menus are from Vist, some from 7, some from 8, some from Win Phone. I right-click, I have some offers, I click, a window opens from a completely different version of os with different fonts, with different icons, with a different design. Terror.
I think it gets lost because it keeps changing directions. First the classic OS, then they decided to go the touchscreen route, then they decided to run the same thing on tablets, then they decided to run the same thing on a phone and now they find that people want a mouse again. They constantly jump here and there and it ends up being impossible to properly control with fingers or a mouse and absurdities like the unlock screen for a desktop PC and locking a mobile phone, etc. 3 lines of font large across the entire 24″ monitor (I’m exaggerating a bit, but we understand), on on the other hand, Google Chrome at 2560 resolution is absolutely brilliant, including fonts. All other big etc.
I am curious and like to discover new OS. I learned that it is possible to make the UI much more comfortable for control and user comfort. While at the time when I bought it, it was a relatively small step towards comfort compared to the then Win 7, for me Win 8 followed the completely opposite trend - worsened control comfort.
you see, in my opinion you overestimate the last laptop manufacturer :] I wouldn't buy anything other than lenovo. sony made good laptops, but not much control, it was a designer like apple. after all, sony is the apple of the 90s
as for the phone, let's agree that Samsung's highest recommendation is comparable to Apple (not better, which is the opinion appearing among reviewers lately). I'm glad you don't write crap like the other people who try to compare a 5k crown model with a phone for 30
so far, I think we agree and that you agree that Samsung makes high-quality high-end phones and Lenovo makes high-quality laptops.
I was interested in your response to my challenge, what is so great about you osX? I was afraid that you would write something vague like your "work with windows, folders, desktops", I can't imagine anything under that, when vim and windows have all this (besides other essential things, a much more extensive software offer is needed)
can you give an example of when you get offers from different OS? or is it some vague "someone, sometime, somewhere, why"?
"constantly changing directions" well, you see, it's called a development that took place over the course of 10 years. it's not so constant :) unfortunately for you, I will have to inform you now that Apple will get over this mess (win 8 was a mess, everyone knows that). he will want to add a touch screen to osX :)
Anyway, I will be grateful if you respond in kind. I wanted to find out some advantages and reasons why people use osX compared to windows 10 and then I didn't find out anything :( maybe some other apple visitor can help?
or is it because osX is included in the price and you would have to pay for windows?
I appreciate Lenovo because they go their own way. I don't like the design, but it is distinctive and certainly not copied, which cannot be said about Asus, for example. And from what I heard, even after the transfer to the hands of the Czechs, the quality did not drop, which was always top notch. So Lenovo laptops are perfectly fine for me. The same Samsung phones, but I recognize them only from the S6 model, because until then they were also a complete copycat and selling hiend phones for 20k made of plastic was completely unacceptable to me. Until now, they have copied Apple a lot, but since the S6 they are going their own way, at least for the most part. And wow, it's so much better. They beat the iPhone in some ways and I like their design. I have the same thing with Android. Until version 5, absolutely ugly unusable slow infected paskvil for me. Only the latest versions are ok for me. But the way I see it is that they have only now caught up/surpassed with fluency, design, materials, etc. A more acceptable competition than Windows in a desktop OS for me these days.
So I didn't want to describe it completely, because it's still terribly long and I thought that you yourself have experience and will understand what I'm talking about, in any case, I'm not averse to an explanation, so you don't have to immediately attack me that I didn't explain something to you :D What makes OS X better realistic user comfort and speed and efficiency? For me, for example, fullscreen mod for all applications. Subsequent COMFORTABLE and completely SEAMLESS gesture switching between desktops/fullscreen applications/applications. Which sounds awfully simpler, but it's the same as when you write in a comparison Škoda Fabia vs Mercedes S-Class - it just doesn't make that much sense. It may sound like a detail, but the ride is somewhere else entirely. It's a thing that's used all the time and damn it depends on how convenient and fast it all is.
With Windows, I don't know if you're testing me or you really can't see it :D For example, try going to settings -> customization -> themes -> sound settings refinement. And compare the design of the windows (bar, colors, distribution of individual items), fonts (size and font itself) and perhaps even buttons, bookmark system, etc. Sound settings is a de facto window from Windows 95 facelifted to the design of the new Windows, but a completely different world from menus of the setting itself, which is really already new. In Win 8 it was even more blatant.
In my opinion, Apple is thinking more about it (they're not such slackers), or at least it seems that way to me. I can't imagine that there would be such meaningless files as with Win 8 on the desktop. And apologizing for mistakes in the style of "others will make those mistakes one day too, you'll see" is out of the question. :-)
Also, I didn't read your penultimate paragraph first, because otherwise I wouldn't have written. I'm definitely not avoiding anything, you get the longest answers that anyone will ever give you with how nice you are and you still have to rejp...
And I don't understand the last paragraph again. Are you trying to bring someone down with a nonsensical argument of your own making? lol :D
hehe you are right about that last paragraph :D
however, I already know what you mean, personally I also don't understand why they put settings in the desktop changer, when instead of that there is a much better control panel that launches the menu for the desktop, instead of settings, which is a menu for the touch screen. anyway, if I want to edit the sound on the desktop, I right-click on the sound, select SOUND and get to where you are, and otherwise it's the same with everything, I don't have to click through anywhere, if I know how to do it
switching between applications has been going on for 20 years, between desktops since aero (if you have it turned on), maximizing windows is winkey+arrows, as well as positioning it in the middle of the screen. what we don't have is 100% maximization of the application, if they don't support it themselves, if they support it (which most of those in which you spend the most time and that's why you want to have them maximized can, for me you need chrome, intelliJ, photoshop, office 2016...) but I recognize that if it is some kind of utility-type software, you need to unzip a file (which is mostly solved with a context menu), or some FTP client, then these things that people don't spend most of their time on (and theoretically don't even want to have them maximized) don't have this
Well, I was expecting you to tell me something about the cloud, user profiles, backups, antivirus, firewall, free updates, Siri, connecting a mobile phone and a computer, searching in full text and context throughout the entire computer, and what do I know, but if you're telling the truth with since you have Windows 10 on two devices, you know for sure that all of this has Windows natively from installation and maintenance-free settings. so we've probably exhausted the topic :)
Otherwise, so much for the schizophrenia of Windows 10 – http://s33.postimg.org/l213rxjm7/nastaveni.jpg
and what does he allow himself to do so fundamentally?
you have settings for desktop and settings for touch enabled
yes, there would be an option that in desktop mode you wouldn't be able to run settings for the touch screen and vice versa, but that would be more difficult for the user than this (if someone gets used to one of those ways)
for your information, and maybe even more horrified, there is still a need for a GODMODE in which you can set absolutely everything and it doesn't even look that clear, but the administrators will appreciate it if they have everything together :}
Well, I praise the design of Windows 10, but only to a certain extent. It is a style that is flying now.
However, the Settings and control panel really overdid it. Actually, I sometimes get lost in the control panel, since Win 7 (especially the network section) and I work in IT. Take the previous sentence as a bit of an exaggeration, but from my point of view, that's how it is, and it's quite confusing for new and long-term Windows users who are not "technically" gifted.
In win 10, some things cannot be done even in the "old" design. No one can disprove me that it is not possible to unify the menu for touch and mouse. Yes, it can be about compromising the same design for less comfort. How often does a person climb into the settings? I don't feel when I have a problem and to solve it I reset this and that.
I would survive united for that.
And the best are the control panels for 10 schizophrenia, where part is displayed in the old and part in the new version :)
The touchpad is not a matter of hardware, but as implemented by Microsoft, there is buried a dog of tragic usability. I've tried Windows 7 on Air 2013 and it shows exactly the same ailments, and I'm not talking about the vindictive gestures on a Mac, which can save you even 2 hours a day during intensive work...
I'm unfortunately forced to work on Windows most of the time and I grew up on it, but as mentioned below, Microsoft has been killing it lately and the overall sophistication of the Mac is completely different (Timemachine, connection with mobile devices, integrated virtual screens [including gestures which microsoft can only imagine] etc.).
And as for 10, it's pretty bad, I don't understand how they want to teach people to buy apps, when their store charged me money for 3 apps, but didn't let me download them with a proper error :). After the factory reset of the tablet, he let me download it, after 3 hours he downloaded the update himself (which can only be disabled by turning off the service, nothing for BFU) and again the situation repeated itself...
Microsoft is doing so well with Windows that they have implemented bash in Windows 10, the only thing that can save MS Windows is that Microsoft will introduce one of the new versions built on Linux and it won't be long, MS will introduce some of its own Linux and I won't be at all wonder if it will be debian.
MS has always cared about developers. and the current trend is to use bash tools. so I don't see anything wrong with him allowing them to use it. the rest is of course nonsense, the Windows core is good and by switching to Linux, it would needlessly lose its competitive advantage :]