Daniel Hruska Why on earth does anyone need such a big tablet?
No one will buy that.
The iPad Pro is just a copycat Microsoft Surface.
After all, Steve Jobs said that nobody wants a stylus.
Steve Jobs would never allow this.
A $99 pen? Let Apple keep it!
You probably know it. After the launch of each new Apple product, the world swarms with pundits and soothsayers who know exactly what Steve Jobs would do (if he knows, why doesn't he start his own successful Apple, right?). He also knows, even though they've only seen the device on their display in a two-minute spot, that it's going to be a total flop. And let's see, it all still sells very well. Strange.
So what does the iPad Pro look like? 99 out of 100 people will probably answer that it is definitely not a productivity tool. Then there will be a hundred people who will someday want to buy an iPad Pro because they will find a use for it. This is me. And there's nothing wrong with that, the iPad Pro really won't be for everyone, similar to the Mac Pro or the 15-inch MacBook Pro.
UI sketching is my daily bread, so it goes without saying that I am interested in the iPad Pro with Apple Pencil. Paper, a ruler and a thin marker are my tools. The paper is always available and as soon as you no longer need the sketch, you crumple the paper and throw it away (in the bin intended for paper, we recycle).
In time, I would like to do the sketching electronically, but for now, paper and markers still lead the way. From the iPad Pro, I promise myself that he will be the one who likes it first without compromise will succeed. There are many companies that make professional tablets and styluses - Wacom for example. Unfortunately, that's not what I'm looking for.
At yesterday's keynote, we could see a demo of the Adobe Comp application. Within a few seconds it is possible to draw the basic layout of the page/application. Coupled with a 13-inch Retina display and Apple Pencil, electronic sketching must be great. No, that's not a line from an ad, that's what I really mean.
There will be more and more similar applications for us UX designers, as well as for artists, graphic designers, photographers, mobile video editors and others. I speak for myself – I look forward to seeing where creativity and the iPad Pro will go in the future. From the beginning, the connection looks very promising. Paper and marker are great tools (and cheap too), but why not take it a step further and find new ways to sketch and prototype UI.
This is just a glimpse of my profession. Maybe now the phrase "Nobody wants a stylus" will be more clear to more people. It was 2007 and there was talk of controlling a phone with a 3,5 inch display. 8 years later, here we have a 13-inch tablet, which is excellently controlled with the fingers. But it also directly encourages drawing, for which pencil, brush, charcoal or marker are best. All are stick-shaped and all are represented by the Apple Pencil. We definitely want a stylus for this one.
Stylus are even doing well on phones, which I think Samsung is successfully proving. Again, this is not a stylus for controlling the phone, but a stylus for writing notes and quick sketches. This definitely makes sense, and I hope that Apple Pencil will work on all Apple iOS devices in the future. But again, it is only given by the requirements for my profession. If I didn't need to sketch, there would be zero interest in a stylus. However, there are the majority of such users, and therefore it is rather just my wish.
There will also be a group of users who will see the point of a large iPad in conjunction with a Smart Keyboard and the ability to display two applications at once. These will mainly be users who often write long texts, documents or have to fill in large tables. Or someone may be missing keyboard shortcuts on the iPad that cannot be entered from the software keyboard. I prefer Mac for writing, but if someone is more comfortable with iOS, why not. After all, this is what the iPad Pro is for.
The basic 32GB version with Wi-Fi will cost $100 less than the 11-inch MacBook Air without accessories. In our country, the final price could be approx. 25 CZK, but that is just my rough estimate. A configuration with 000GB of memory and LTE could cost 128 CZK, which is almost the price of a 34-inch MacBook Pro without a few "small" changes. It is a lot? It's not enough? For a person who will use the iPad Pro, the price is not that important. He simply buys it or at least starts saving for it.
So I think those 99 people will never own an iPad Pro. However, for the rest of the people, the iPad Pro will bring a lot of use and will be an indispensable work tool. No one expects the iPad Pro to be the best-selling and coveted iPad. No, it's going to be a narrowly focused device that's kind of in the background.
I have a stylus on my Note 3 and it's a good thing. It will be a bomb for graphics and sketching. The only thing that bothers me about it is the keyboard ala Surface. It will not hold when you want to put the tablet on your hands and knees and type on it on the keyboard like on a laptop. That's great on the Yoga 3. But there's no stylus there, which would certainly be used occasionally.
Again, it's nice that Apple doesn't only work on mass products, but on the iPad Pro, for example, which can be a great tool for someone :-)
I've been waiting for this. A pencil that is like the real thing. I will buy the 128gb model without lte. For web consumption in the sofa, perfection. And doodling, making sketches, and so on. The price is ok, it is a unique hw piece. After all, it has a desktop class cpu and 4gb of ram. Besides, it looks really great. This is the ipad thanks to which a person can be proactive, this is how it was intended at the beginning, but it has been achieved even now. The Mini ended up as an entry model for poor people who don't have an iPhone 6+, air content consumption and as a tool for us creatives.
I don't know, but I think there are still a lot of people here who don't want to line their pockets. But the mini-rich is enough for them to read. So I would spare words about the poor. Poor people are with cheap Asia with android.
Android is for the super poor, what they do for a few bucks. mini is for solvent pumps. i.e. spend half a year on it and then make a mess. ipad to separate the wheat from the chaff.
You can't even think that seriously. That ownership of an object would elevate a person? Maybe in Slovakia or in other less developed countries. I don't understand your logic. I will buy a Galaxy s6 Edge for 25 thousand and I am super poor. You buy an iP6 Plus for the same money and you're dead. I'll buy a Yoga 30 with a full desktop processor for 3 thousand and I'm super poor. You can also buy an iPad Pro for 30 with a "pencil" or whatever you call it, and you'll be super creative. I would like to meet you one day. What kind of an ox you must be, it's not even possible.
But that's the way it is, the S6 Edge can only be bought by a poor person or a very rich person, because the added value of the S6 Edge compared to, for example, cheap Chinese ones, is more negative than positive.
If Samsung sold those phones with pure Android, rooted from the factory, like Chinese mobiles. And at the same time they had a luxurious look, which they don't have, because even the S6, which is made of metal and glass, has a more plastic feel, then one could consider such a phone. An added value would be default root and a quality design like the iPhone, but Samsung doesn't offer either.
What's the point of a powerful Samsung for 26k if it can't take a photo that isn't cute on the first try. Sony Z,Z2,Z3, Meizu MX4, XIAOMI...iPhone can do it better, but the iPhone has been lagging behind with low resolution so far. In addition, Samsung has a low battery capacity compared to Chinese phones in its category, which are at most half the price of a new Samsung, i.e. up to 13K, and the Mi4 has a better design than Samsung, and the Z3 is also waterproof.
Same opinion as Anton. A large board directly encouraging you to draw, create page layouts, view and lightly edit photos. The Apple Pencil will add a new dimension to all of this and, as mentioned in the article, it will not be used to control the tablet (which was rejected by SJ) but only for better and more precise work on the display. With this, Apple scored for me, I would definitely not judge a large tablet until I try it, I am very much thinking about purchasing it and hopefully it will be available here in November, in sufficient quantity.
I think the iPad Pro will end up the same as the Macbook Pro 17″. It is a product aimed at a narrow group of consumers, which in terms of numbers (and therefore profit) is not very lucrative for Apple, but it is still trying.
PS: A beautiful fail was pushing away the iPad Air for this year :)
I did not understand that. They update the Mini and ditch the Air..
Air has such performance and parameters that they can easily afford to skip one cycle and still be 5 years ahead of the competition.
They just compared the performance of Mini and Air, there was no reason to push Air somewhere. Personally, I prefer them to have the same performance. A person then buys an iPad according to what size suits him, and not according to what compromise he is willing to make. Until now it was about choosing either more power or a more practical size. Now I don't have to make decisions like that.
For example, I think that the Macbook Pro 17″ might come back, because Intel will have mobile Xeons that are perfect for it :) I don't think that pushing the iPad Air away is a fail... The iPad Air 2 still has great performance :)
I am very curious if he will take it. I don't like the concept of a separate keyboard. It's just for the table. A laptop is simply far better on your lap, on the train, or in bed. I like the concept of Yoga the best. A full-fledged system, solid construction, but also usable as a tablet including a stylus. I actually only use the iPad as an e-newspaper reader and I like to edit photos on it. The rest of my work requires a laptop – a MacBook Pro. However, it's clear to me that I'm not the only target group and that's why, as I said at the beginning, I'm really curious if this concept will catch on. It feels a bit like the first surface with RT to me :-)
I wrote something similar above. But I was stricken with envy. You will probably be targeted as well. Maybe I'll make a sock out of you too, what's wrong with that. That's how it goes here.
Well, maybe you are afraid unnecessarily. The size will not be as big /unbearable/ as it seems. Photos (good ones) will look very good on the Pro… And not just you. With the Air 2 discount, they have taken care of their customers (don't look at the PRO with a view from the Czech basin).
The iPad Air 2 will still cost the same.
I agree with something, but not in this article
I was also a target, just like the author. the difference is that I need it to run OSX and not IOS. having this in OSX and 128 size makes me happy. The money is ready, I was waiting for it like salt, I didn't get it :( so I have to keep dragging the macpro 15, which I already wanted to leave 90% at home
The big problem with the iPad Pro is the weight. Good thing it's a tablet and with that keyboard ala surface, you won't have to hold it on your knees. I wonder how tin owners will hold it in one hand and creatively sketch and design layouts with the other, when most apple owners are poor people. That tablet weighs almost three quarters of a kilo. Long-term holding in one hand is almost impossible. So it will be laid on the table and sketched. Especially for the neck, ergonomically soft. I've laughed several times on the train when some applist wanted to watch movies on his iPad and after half an hour he didn't know how to put iZarak down. On the other hand, the girl with the plastic Asus eee had it lying on her lap, turned the display as she needed, and both hands remained free. Each device has its advantages and disadvantages. Zlata Yoga 3 from Lenovo. I want a tablet, I have a tablet. I want notes, I have notes.
Yes, of course it will be placed on the table when sketching. Why should anyone hold it in one hand? Did you hold a notebook in one hand while writing at school?
Certainly yes, that's why he's now Arnold with a strong left hand, because of which everyone teases him :-)
I've been using Joby GorillaMobile Ori for iPad 2 for four years and now I bought a new one for 300,- Probably the best stand and cover I've ever had for an iPad, so if I do something similar for the Pro, there's nothing to solve. It's literally out of whack…
Well, the Ipad 4 also weighed almost three quarters of a kilo. What you write is bullshit. You have no experience with Apple, you are just venting your own envy here.
As I observe the internet discussions under the article about the iPad Pro (here on Czech websites), it seems that a bag of "creatives, artists, ..." and comments like how they can suddenly be as productive as a hamster in a wheel has been torn apart.
Have any of you tried, for example, Wacom Intuos Pro or other really prof. Tools?
Exactly:-). Here, it would bother me that I am de facto covering the object I am painting/retouching with my pen.... I have an Intuos XL :-).
But I think that a very specific group of people will buy it. I think the tablet as such is a great display surface for photos and their basic editing.
So you can't draw on paper because of covering up?
Personally, I think that it will find its users only in companies, or among graphic designers who are included in the package,
799 is not small, and in addition 128 GB + keyboard will be needed for creation, that is a total of 1118 dollars, when we consider that for 1299 there is a MacBook Pro 13″ Retina, where you can do more, so it is questionable how many people will go for it
Please try to answer me, but not in the "stupid question, stupid answer" style, thanks... Do I understand correctly that if I have a stylus in my hand, I can put the lower part of my hand on the desktop while "drawing" and nothing will happen? TO