Libor Kubín Many people interested in iPhone were disappointed in the new year 2011. The iPhone has disappeared from the offers of some e-shops of our mobile operators.
So we asked directly at the source - individual mobile operators.
What is iPhone availability? You do not offer it in the e-shop. Will he have it? And when?
Telefónica O2 Czech Republic, as, Blanka Vokounová
As for the iPhone 4, Apple's supply is very limited. As for the e-shop, the iPhone 4 is not sold through it and has not been sold in the past. Those interested can buy iPhone 4 at branded and dealer stores.
T-Mobile Czech Republic as, Martina Kemrová
The iPhone supply situation is still unsatisfactory, it is currently sold out and we expect the next supply (perhaps) in mid-January. Unfortunately, the manufacturer decides how many phones will be delivered to us.
Vodafone Czech Republic as, Adéla Konopková
We are currently slightly modifying the eShop, so iPhones are not visible on it for a short time. However, we expect him to return there very soon. We will inform you about it in time.
Editor's note: iPhone is already in the eShop.
So is the Czech Republic on the verge of being interested in Apple? Apple's European site offers the iPhone 4 with availability from one day to a week. German operators offer the iPhone both in e-shops, and you can take it directly from the store.
Hmm .. it's not bad when someone abroad asks me where I live, so I tell him that on the verge of Apple's interest - what will Google maps find?
Otherwise, the launch of the iPad in our market after 10 months on the market and a few months before the launch of the iPad 2 is more indicative of the fact that a truck with cargo got lost here and the driver exchanged the goods for advice on how to get out of here quickly.
I don't want to be a skeptic, but I don't expect the situation to improve anytime soon :(
The market is made up of people (customers) and as long as the Czechs are the kind of customers they are now, the situation will never be better. And this does not apply only to Apple, which really has no reason to break here. I don't want to start a flame, but hand to heart.
Personally, I am quite surprised that Apple has a language mutation for us in some products and on the website. :D
that's a pretty messed up idea, it doesn't really work like that…. where there is no supply, there is no demand
... however, if Apple has full production capacity, as it does, it is logical that it will focus on large markets, where sales efficiency will be significantly higher, and if it has surpluses, it will also reach small markets like ours.. that is a sad reality.... Fortunately, we live relatively close to civilization, so it's not really a problem these days, you have to go to Germany, where you can buy everything directly in the Apple store, often cheaper than here
I don't want to spoil your contribution, but unfortunately in both micro and macroeconomics it is true that where there is DEMAND there is supply.
As a company, I will not visit markets where there is no interest in my products. Unfortunately, that's how it works. And the reason why there is no official Apple store in CR is that CR does not meet the conditions for Apple to enter here. As for prices in ApStor, the price is exactly the same as in other EU countries/We have to take into account the warranty in CR and taxes/
Please therefore check all the information /to which you unfortunately do not have access/ because potential readers will then take to heart information that is absolutely not true and so Apple "delivers" in the guilds what it delivers.
Thank you and best regards
Dusan
Just like dusan. This is an extremist server where only "apple freaks" hang out. According to the conditions here, it is not possible to evaluate the market, which is very poor in the Czech Republic, and according to some statistics that I have read, about half of the iOS devices also have JB. So why try to do something here? Few devices and still half of the users "steal". Czechia… :-(
I'm not surprised Apple doesn't deal with us.
But it annoys me. Yes again. :-)
I'm not exactly an economist, but common sense tells me that it's a bit strange to expect demand for something that people have no idea exists, that I practically don't offer or advertise in the given country
as for those prices, on the contrary, it is information that I have access to, even everyone has access to it, just look at the price lists on domains other than .cz... yes, it cannot be ruled out that you will not get a 2-year warranty like in CR, or that you will have to deal with a possible complaint in a complicated way, but that is another story...
...and if you go to Germany for an ipad/iwhatever and then declare it for customs clearance/delivery, then you are pardonably insane
Hello,
then your common sense tells you very badly. If you were a computer seller, would you go to the cotton market? You don't go because there are no computers there. You go to the computer market and that's it. As far as I know, the problem is only with the iPhone, there are plenty of other products everywhere.
As for the information, I didn't come across the price but information about Apple's products and strategies. But since you mentioned the price, I'm glad. iPad 16GB Wifi costs EUR 499 in Germany, this same model costs EUR 24,857 in CR at the current CSOB exchange rate from their website, i.e. EUR 482,359 (!!!), so I would say that it might be better to save gas/diesel for the trip to Germany and invite the wife to a beautiful evening with a romantic walk and coffee. And for less than 17 EUR saved, if I can count, you can buy a beautiful case, foil and stand. How perfect, right?
We do not know according to which exchange rates you recalculate the EURO, or where you calculate the prices of the iPad in CR, in any case, each APR (which is the maximum, because the official appstore is not in CR for certain reasons, for which only people and no one else are to blame, or I will be happy to answer questions by email) it must have the same price, and that is the already mentioned 482 EUR plus some small change.
Please, how can you then claim that our market is bad? You even have a 2-year warranty, including a 1-year international worldwide warranty. Let's give thanks for what we have in CR!!!
And believe me, people have a feeling about Apple, but the vast majority of them say "there's nothing wrong with it" "it's expensive" and Believe me, every single statement can be refuted with clarity and ease these days, as Steve introduces new products .
And what is the whole world doing? He waits for what Apple releases and then he releases it too
Thank you and best regards
Dusan
I would like to point out this
@Michal Szydlowski Believe me that Apple is very interested in the CR market, the only problem is the conditions for entering this market. However, I firmly believe that the situation (since it has a decreasing tendency) will be good enough in some time for Apple to enter the CR market (I'm a little sorry that SR is lagging behind in this regard)
The next question is what period it will be in and what kind of day it will have!
Anyway, I'm looking forward to it :)
@Cat. As for the promotion of something in the given country, I also have to take into account the fact that Apple is not in CR, only APR, so these are (only seen by you) blockages in the market.
On the other hand, I think that the Czech market is doing well (compared to, for example, SR), but the services are at a lower level (just my personal experience), so it's all about the people :)
When people start trusting Apple, we will have apple TV, itunes store, etc...
Good evening (I've got a taste for that coffee)
Well, that's what I write about all the time. It's in the people, and until people stop being down-to-earth, Apple won't push itself here. Demand is low…
BTW: I confirm the services in SK as better. Much.
sorry, but the analogy is wrong, of course as a computer seller I will not push myself into the cotton market, but here we are talking about an American computer seller and his activities on the computer market in another country, that is somewhat divided
the problem is not only with the iPhone, but mainly in the fact that products are delivered to small markets many times with a delay of many months and sometimes not at all, but this behavior is logical
with the ipad, a nice example, but somehow I can't find somewhere to write that all products are cheaper abroad under all circumstances, besides, did you try to buy an ipad in CR, maybe last spring? Yes, and what would you say, I couldn't find it and had to order it from abroad, and yes, the iPad prices here are really very good, that surprised me and it's definitely not the rule
no, people, I really have no idea what Apple is and what it sells, you have a very distorted idea when you and your friends are involved in it... try stopping 10 people on the street and asking if they know Apple and what it sells... 6 of them won't know which one is beating and 3 will tell you that it will most likely be a fruit wholesaler, that next year there will be an advertising massage for Apple products, then we can say that people will start to become aware
As I see it, this debate is degenerating somewhere completely different from what was requested. So I'll try to explain it once more and a little more simply.
Entrepreneurship is an activity on one's own responsibility with the aim of achieving results - to put it very simply. This means that if I want to start a business, I have to find a hole in the market, otherwise it basically makes no sense. I'll try to take the debate outside of IT, maybe you'll find it a better solution, because I don't know in which sphere of the economy you operate.
Both premium and non-premium cars are produced in Germany. When a car manufacturer from CLDR wants to sell its car on this market, no one complains about it, even if the car is technically more advanced/more beautiful/higher quality/at a reasonable price, i.e. simply innovative compared to the German premium. Why would people be skeptical in Germany? Because they are taught something, and whether we like it or not, change is a problem for 90% of the population. And that's the way it goes in the IT world, why should I pay for something that someone else (Apple sellers in CR) will arrange for me "at a profit"
And then people complain about how expensive everything is, and buy cheaper ones from HP. Yes, it is possible, but if we summarize what the MacBook PRO 13″ includes in the basic package for 27 CZK and what similarly equipped HP or other laptops contain, plus all the software that Apple includes in Apple Vita.
It is statistically proven that the person in question shares a failure or bad experience with 11 other people. In other words... One bad trade is all it takes, and with a little math, we can always multiply it by n-com. Cze 11 na Ntu is incredibly powerful. And this is happening right now somewhere in offices and on the streets.
So it is pointless for Apple to enter the Czech market officially, since it would not have the required profit from it, because the "old eastern block" is still referred to Windows and nothing but Windows. And I don't want people to give me advice, because when they bought their first computer, it was Windows, not Mac. I see it in my parents, my surroundings, and my acquaintances.
That's why Apple has regulated APR and AR in the official way, which replaces its use in the market where it should not be relevant. I repeat once again that we do not meet the conditions and therefore "suffer?!"
When you mentioned that people have no idea what it sells, try asking those 10 people what else Microsoft makes besides Windows, what will the answer be?
It's been a war between these two camps since ages, but unfortunately Apple wins. Why? because what it offers is optimized for itself.
You know the iPad last spring…. We can't take it that way, because it wasn't officially on the Czech market. Why wasn't he? Because the people who make the iPad are also just people. In other words, Apple divides the markets into some "waves" If I remember correctly, in the first wave of ipads there were USA, UK, GER? in the second, then Cancer, etc... We were already in the THIRD, and we can thank Apple for that, since there is no Applestore in CR.
And why were iPads so expensive? Because it was a so-called import and the person who imported it also needed something to live on. We're just in business again. He saw a hole in the Czech market, so he filled it, of course at prices that would cover his import costs, the costs of running the company, and of course he wants to make a proper profit from it, otherwise he wouldn't be in business. That's why the prices of iPads have risen to a dizzying 28 Czechs for the 64GB3 version. We can only evaluate it as an adequate example, as it was an import!!!!
Try to compare the prices of the Mercedes C350 in the USA and in CR, what did you come up with?
Otherwise, I will ask if you have ever shopped at ApStore trebars in the USA. If yes, you were definitely in for a surprise, if not, the price on the internet is distorted. That is, when buying in the official apstore, you pay an additional DAN (yes, there is a tax in the USA) plus a kind of "disk" for the seller. So you won't pay 499 dollars, but I think about 550. There was also an excellent article about it on a competitor's server, unfortunately I won't post it here.
When someone is against Apple, no one can convince them. Why is it? As I mentioned the change.
Have you seen an official advertisement from Apple somewhere? (I don't mean sellers) And why is this so? That's why apple has such sales and turnover? Why is he the first to have what he has? That's why I'm not afraid to try new things. Because it doesn't need advertising, apple will either sell itself or it won't. You know, there is talk about the so-called jumpers between Win and Mac. And what is the truth? When you try something from Apple, is it op. system or touch display, it's over! You will never go back to wine again. What can't be said about windows.. And that's what it's about :)
And why does apple grow as much as it does? Because some madman in Cupertino said he would do it that way. If each of us said so, we live in a perfect world, but no one is perfect, right? :)
I wish you a wonderful day, and I, like the rest of the "CR but also SR sheep", hope that people will be more inclined to change, which will only benefit us.
Thank you and best regards
D.
To be honest, I somehow did not understand what you are trying to convince me of? that it is better for me not to order a new apple device abroad and wait for it to be officially available in our country, or to buy it here at a higher price to show Apple that there is a demand in CR?
no problem, have a nice day ;-)
I've been waiting for Vodafone to stock the iPhone 4 since the beginning of December, so hopefully they will come sometime :).
I don't know, but I bought an Iphone4 16 GB in Pardubice from Vodafone sometime in mid-December and they had enough of them...
I'm waiting for the stock e-shop so I can change the company phone (rewards after two years).
I heard today that Vodafone should have them from January 10, now they don't have any. I'm waiting for him, I won him. :)
They're not that unavailable, right? What can I say, I waited a month and a half for the 4GB Air... and according to the stickers on the box it took a week from China to Rotterdam and a month and a week from Rotterdam to Ostrava. Could it be a problem in logistics?
Although it is OT, but the 4GB AIR is a tragedy, I spent a long time trying to figure out how to buy it and not wait 4-6 weeks, which the local sellers offer, and finally the DTP studio had it in stock and it was at my place within half a day :-)
We must be on the edge of interest due to the fact that we buy few applications. I'd rather deliver iPhones and iPods to a country where even a little girl will leave a few hundred dollars for them.
http://news.yahoo.com/video/chicagocbs2-15750637/pop-ups-enticing-kids-to-spend-money-parents-say-23707317
I personally spent a good 10 on apps on the app store during that time, it doesn't seem like it, but after those small amounts it adds up.
I didn't want to start this exact flame about Czech customers above. :D
According to my information, Telefónica O2 will receive a larger shipment of phones before January 15. So around this date, the phones will probably be available at least somewhere...
It probably won't be quite so tragic. I signed a contract with Vodafone on Friday and today, Wednesday, the lady called me that she got it for me (16GB). It must be added that it was probably necessary to pull the strings somewhere, but it works :)
Exactly, I stupidly signed the contract in advance (in November) and I still don't have it.
I waited about a month for an ip 32GB at vodafone - I checked the offer daily and called weekly, so the lady told me that they would be available then and there, so I waited, but the experience of others is that it is good to ask at Vodafone stores. But I have a long way to go, so I solved it in my own way.
just don't bring them.. don't let everyone else have it here! (: