There are countless ways to use iPads and other devices with the bitten apple logo. One of the main areas where Apple is trying to deploy its tablets is the corporate environment. Today, iPads have already managed to be implemented in practically all spheres of business, and it only depends on the entity in question how effectively it can use the latest technology.
Also in the Czech Republic, there are many larger or smaller companies that have been able to deploy iPads, iPhones or Macs very well, but many others are still tiptoeing around iPads and new technologies in general. As a result, they often miss opportunities to not only modernize and make their own work more efficient, but also, for example, to make everyday work more pleasant for end users.
It is obvious that iPads cannot be universally deployed everywhere in the current conditions of domestic companies, this is mainly due to awareness, which is so low in our country that often apple tablets and other products are only available where someone already has experience with them or some kind of relationship .
Companies often argue about the high costs of acquiring them in the corporate environment. However, the price of devices from Apple is more of a psychological barrier, when the company must initially spend more money on their purchase. However, as soon as he starts to use them, the secondary effect of their deployment will become apparent almost immediately, which will not only significantly improve the user comfort for everyone who works with them, but above all will reduce the costs of their operation and, in the long term, save the company money on human resources and their service.
That's why we decided that at Jablíčkář in the Czech Republic, we will help spread awareness about how to effectively integrate iPads or Macs into the operations of various companies and institutions. In the series "We deploy Apple products in business" we want to present what the possibilities are when you decide to purchase several dozen iPads for your company, how their management works, how much such a matter can cost, and last but not least, we also want to demonstrate in specific cases what benefits iPads can have in a company environment.
Most of the articles that were published in the country were based only on theoretical possibilities and lacked real cases from practice. In our series, we do not want to publish information about how great it works abroad and how amazing it can look, for example, in the presentation of Pepsi and other large companies, which we can read in many case studies directly on the Apple website. We will focus only on facts and outputs from the deployment and use of Apple technologies in domestic companies and institutions.
In order not to move on thin ice in this area, we asked for cooperation on the series of Jan Kučerík, who has been working directly with Apple for more than seven years and was at the origin of several important projects in the field of implementing iOS and macOS devices. Jan Kučeřík and his team were at the origin of projects such as the implementation of iPads for the National Telemedicine Center, production automation for Industry 4.0, the use of specific sensors in extra-league hockey to collect and analyze data directly from the playing field, or a nationwide project of education using iPads in primary schools.
He also repeatedly shared outputs from domestic implementations directly with Apple experts and developers on the given topic at Apple's European headquarters in London. The wave of mass deployment of iPads and other Apple products in companies is coming to us in the region of Central Europe a little more slowly, and it was Jan Kučerík who was behind many pioneering projects that have been created here in recent years.
"The iPad is used by doctors at the National Telemedicine Center I. Internal Clinic of the Olomouc University Hospital. Using 3D applications of the human body and especially the heart, they explain cardiovascular problems to patients and show them in detail how their treatment will proceed," Kučerík explains, adding that iPads are already used by doctors in several hospitals today, not only in large ones, but also in smaller ones. , such as the hospital in Vsetín.
"We managed to integrate the iPad in the obstetrics and gynecology department, where nurses and doctors explain the birth process to women. Technology from Apple is also used by the physiotherapy and rehabilitation department, where they clearly explain to patients how their body and musculoskeletal system work," adds Kučerík, who has also managed to implement iPads in, for example, the engineering company AVEX Steel Products, which manufactures metal pallets and steel structures.
In the following weeks, we want to explain and present to you how it is possible to deploy iPads, Macs and other Apple products from A to Z in a company or any institution. We will show you how in the end both the implementation itself and the subsequent use of any the number of iPads, iPhones and Macs, and at the same time how important it is to properly understand what these products can actually serve you.
We will imagine how to integrate and deploy Apple products in the corporate environment and how to subsequently manage them effectively, for which special Apple programs are used, which significantly simplify everything. Subsequently, we will look at specific cases of use from business, the so-called Industry 4.0, medicine or sports.
Moreover, we will not stay only with the written text. Once again, in cooperation with Jan Kučerík, we will start broadcasting the "Smart Cafe" project, which will regularly feature interviews with representatives of companies and institutions who will share their experiences of using Apple devices with you. You will learn, for example, how they coped with the deployment of iPads and Macs, what challenges and obstacles they were exposed to, what it brought them and how they are today.
I work in It and I'm interested in this!!! great;-)
Hello Daniel! With Jablickar.cz, I will try to get as close as possible to the needs corresponding to reality. We thought for a long time how to grasp it. In 7 years, enough has been done and now I will try to share it. Hopefully you will also guide us and maybe even encourage us with your comments.
I myself am a Mac, iPhone, iPad user. Which eventually lead me to do Apple Certified Associate Mac Integration and want to continue further. I am very interested in the integration of Apple products in the corporate environment and education. I will definitely watch and encourage this series. Information of this kind is hard to come by.
Hello, how does such certification take place please? Thank you very much to the Jablíčkára College for this "series" I'm really looking forward to it! ?
You can do Apple Certified Associate - Mac Integration Basics online in Aj, it costs $65. There is a manual on the website.
The second Apple Certified Support Professional (ACSP) 10.12 certification must be done at an authorized center, such as Gopas. The course costs 18.000.
Mac OS X Certification: http://training.apple.com/en/certification/osxyosemite.html
General overview of certifications:http://www.learnquest.com/subcategories.aspx?programid=709
Other resources: http://osxadmin.cz/?p=357
Thanks for the information!
Excellent idea, I look forward to the next article.
SUPER!!
An excellent idea :)
I think the main problem is being tied to the cloud environment and Apple fees. On Windows, there is still the possibility of working on premise, even if they are already trying to suppress it there. In most cases, the winner's effort, which is in the company, does not leave the company.
This philosophy (what's at home counts) will soon die. It's not about fashion or Apple. Overall, the prevailing trend is to be able to automatically connect things and share information from one application to another, and unfortunately company servers will no longer be enough for that. Maybe God :)
The cloud is in some ways the best solution today and a bright future. But it cannot be said that everything should go to the cloud. Let's take mail as a prime example - having an on-premise mail today is pointless for most companies - the cloud brings many obvious advantages. But it is not always possible. It is very easy to get into a situation where the user needs to be "cut off" from the Internet - usually for security reasons (the client requires it). Then there is nothing left but to have a server in the company - or even better to have a hybrid solution. It also turns out that some calculations do not pay off in the cloud. For example, calculations based on a bunch of small files. There, the speed can drop to 1/3 (our experience). Contracts between the client and the supplier are also common, which expressly prohibit having data elsewhere than in the company. And the speed of data availability is also a consideration. According to my experience and from what I see in the world, it will again settle somewhere in between. Something out, something at home.
Excellently written. I agree. But it is necessary to perceive it as this is how it is today. However, everything is moving towards the cloud and what they would have laughed at me for wanting in the cloud two years ago is real today and is moving further. As things stand, however, I sign what you write.
Yes, however, just as line throughput, computing power, etc. will increase, so will the amount of data produced. Thus, in certain respects, nothing will actually improve.
In my opinion, it will never catch on to have "production" data in the cloud (I don't mean documents, but e.g. CAD project, media, .. with which I need to work at the time). With the cloud, there will always be a problem with their lower availability compared to "on-premise" (in terms of line speed and response). If I need speed, I will always have to have them "at home". Latency and line speed will always be better in LAN than WAN.
In addition, there will probably always be situations when I will not be able to connect to the Internet.
But once I'm done with the data, the cloud is an ideal place for archiving. All big players such as Amazon, Microsoft, Google already offer the option of cloud as an archive, its problems today are 1) price - it is still much more expensive than tapes 2) Czech brain - what is at home counts and if I am already spending millions, then I want to physically see why and if it doesn't work I want to have someone to yell at.
Both will (hopefully) change in the future…
Storage solutions that have their last tier in the cloud are already on the market today. However, it still suffers from certain ailments such as scalability, a pricing policy that has not yet paid off, etc. But that is also (again hopefully) a matter of time...
However, I still think (and my experience confirms this) that the future is not a pure cloud, but a hybrid. This will offer both speed, availability and scalability...
Well, in writing I would see it only for data that needs to be synchronized across multiple devices in a short period of time. The data on which the business is based, or unique know-how, will remain for a long time on our own servers or stored on well-encrypted backups. In addition, many companies are contractually bound to work under the supervision of a certain well-defined repository. Alternatively, at least on a storage site that falls under CR or at least EU laws. And he's not even talking about big companies.
that's the question - of course, the management trend here is also to throw all new solutions into the cloud, but it often turns out that there is simply a difference whether 10.000 people go to the internal servers for a stupid time-sheet application, or it's another request on the Internet I'm going out, because it's clear from my tone that the user experience for cloud solutions (the same application) has gotten a lot worse, it's significantly slower and people are not satisfied
The series is very good - I wouldn't entrust anything important to the latest OSX, macOS or iOS. They are wildly unreliable systems! Golden Snow Leopard…
aha... this will be the reason why my Mac on sierra and previous versions runs for weeks or months (mostly from update to update) with literally daily use without restarting and without problems, and I really can't remember the last application crash or system crash to remember, while at work on Windows, maintained by experts with all their might, after 5 days without a restart my computer has slowed down to the point where even the ordinary "native" office crashes so regularly that not saving a document for more than a few minutes is an adrenaline rush... simply if I had to choose whether it's safer and more reliable for me to work on a Mac or at work on Win, or where I won't lose a lot of work, so the winner is clear by a mile. If only I had the choice. I'm not talking about the ergonomics of the controls and the overall speed, and therefore the comfort and efficiency of work, which is what counts most at work
I wish I had your experience. My Finder freezes every day, the desktop goes to sleep pointlessly, and so does the Internet connection, applications crash. The whole system can be dropped by innocently creating a large matrix in Matlab, by improperly unmounting the external disk. Restart required once a week. Etc, etc.
hmmm so it's not normal and I don't see it on any Mac around... there are 3 running in the family (all updated, different ages and types) at work as private with colleagues, maybe 4-5 (again different types) with friends, another 3-4 or so I see it regularly, and I've only heard of something similar to what you describe in one case, where a HW error was ultimately to blame - faulty iMac graphics, I think it was then - it's been a long time. Otherwise, they all run on up-to-date systems and just like me in terms of maintenance requirements. My Finder has never frozen in the time I have had a Mac (now 3rd) unmount disks several times a day, and I have never had a single similar problem in all my years on any machine. The only Matlab I can't guess what it does there, I don't use it
Today, after waking up from sleep, the touchpad of the laptop did not respond to pressing. The haptic response doesn't even click anything. A reboot helped.
but I trust you that you are not making this up... but I am not alone in telling you that this is a completely abnormal and rather exceptional Mac behavior that needs to be done (unless you masochistically enjoy restarts that the Mac should not and does not need) . Something simply went wrong there, left, or was damaged. What exactly, we won't solve here - but it won't be better by itself. See above for the recommended procedure from simpler to more complex.
This is not the fault of one piece, I came to work today and the same thing, the haptic response of the trackpad is not working, i.e. it is not possible to click other than by tapping. After restarting the trackpad everything is ok. A colleague said that it happened to him yesterday too. It's not normal, but unfortunately it happens. And I did a re-install in desperation on one machine and I'm waiting to see what happens...
Of course, I don't mean it as spin, I'm just saying that I wouldn't use Apple, as it works today, for a task that requires reliability.
I really don't see an alternative.
On the one hand, I do not see the problems mentioned by you either at home or in my surroundings, let alone so often (knock knock :) ... and above all and above all I do not see a more stable and reliable alternative for macOS running on Apple ... Windows certainly not ... with those as I wrote I get angry enough at work and at home before they went away with version 7 and the last win machine too and NO Linux really CANNOT be reasonably used for applications that are needed and common users. So what else is more stable? I honestly don't know anything like that
Hello Martin. What you describe is definitely not standard macOS behavior. There are two possible solutions. Reinstall from backup if clean install doesn't help, if service doesn't help. I turn off macOS maybe once every 1 days or not, and I really don't know what you're describing. So are our clients. Have a nice day.
Good day. A clean install as a bug fix (whatever is behind it) is something I thought I wouldn't hear about on a Mac. When my graphics card went out on a stretcher at Apple service, the technician first told me that it was because I was also using other applications (including from the app store) than Apple, that I should only have the system and programs that are installed after unpacking from the box . Of course, it was resolved in 3-4 weeks, in the meantime I got a 10-year-old ham.. I have no other experience in the last x years than with OSX and Ubuntu Linux, so I can't judge Windows, but I see a lot of people around me who have to reboot, perform clean installs, etc. Of course, it depends on what one does and what software one uses, but even unoptimized software should not crash the system. A very long output to the terminal is sufficient, which will freeze the system, or a similar operation in Python instead of Matlab. Rainbow wheel and the end. Of course, the movie works fine in iTunes and Safari without Java and Flash. In the Finder, I suspect a Dropbox poll and more complicated network settings at work, where something doesn't match with the OSX file system.. I don't blame Apple for having stupid 3rd party apps, but that the OS is not robust enough.
hey, this behavior of the system is simply not normal... dropbox is not something that is not widely used, neither is the terminal. So there is something kicking in there...reinstalling the computer is of course an exceptional solution and, unlike Windows, it is really only done exceptionally (I only did it once to be sure on a second-hand machine), but it is a relatively easy way to exclude some sources of obviously serious of the problem (regardless of what you hoped for ... everyone hopes to avoid the problem if possible). So you can either restart and curse over and over or solve it... none of us know where the error is at this moment, but it is there. Electronics, hw are leaving, the system (any) can be broken... it cannot be 100% prevented. OSX is unlikely to be error-free, but under normal circumstances it is still an oasis of peace and well-being against anything alternative, and one problematic machine won't change that much.
I agree that a clean install is not something you want to experience, but on the other hand, we have a system behaving atypically on macOS. With a clean installation, you will detect a possible HW error and you can complain. I personally have never had to undergo this and as I mentioned I hardly turn off the MacBook.
I have both a Macbook and an iPad (and a few other Apple devices), but I definitely can't imagine using them at work. There are still no specialized applications for them. They handle typical office work well, yes, but buying a laptop for 50k for Excel spreadsheets and mail is simply very disadvantageous for companies. I understand where the authors of the article are going, but the owner of the company simply does not buy computers that are 100-200% more expensive for his employees, unless he is an Apple enthusiast and has no money to throw away.
It depends on what "specialized" application it is. In many areas they are, in many they may not. Sometimes you can switch to alternatives. It's a matter of thinking with your head when choosing a solution and not getting massaged by sales bullshit, how macs and iPads are flawless and wonderful and perfect for everyone (because they definitely aren't - especially in a corporate environment). Switching to another platform (be it mac or whatever) can only work if the users themselves want it. I know from experience that if the management puts the "regular user" in front of the finished product without convincing him, it can rub off a lot and the whole thing misses the point. The result is an agitated user whose productivity drops by half.
Sorry, but even the more advanced use of Excel on macOS does not work. So what?
Yes, macros are a problem. That's why not much Mac for the office in the bank. But corporate use doesn't have to be all about Office.
in order for a company to choose a Mac for work, it must offer some added value. They won't offer you one in the office, you can argue about it in terms of graphics and sound, but ok, they are defensible there. Everywhere else the Mac loses (we are talking about the company as a whole, not the situation where the entire company goes to Windows and the kid buys a Macbook and debugs it himself).
And switching to another platform really can't work just because users want it, I've been using a mac as my primary machine for a long time and of course my goal was to adapt my work and find alternatives so that I could use it at work too - it's not possible. To this day, Office is still not reliable in the version for Mac, specialized applications for calibration and operation of various types of AV devices are basically only for Windows, sometimes an application for Mac, which, however, never has the full functionality of the version for Win. Thanks to the fact that the mac does not have a serial port, which today is dead in the user sphere but is still used in droves in the professional sphere, the mac is unusable here as well. So I searched, I tried for a year, and then I simply added an elitebook from HP to my beloved macbook, because the macbook was not able to satisfactorily do 90% of my work.
Of course, there are plenty of places where a mac can be deployed, but ask yourself, is that person able to justify double the price for doing the same job with that machine? A secretary can't defend a notebook for 40 sticks, an accountant can't either, a marketer can hardly, some manager can for presentations, but there it's about the fact that he wants a mac even if he can't even play an mp3. And I'm not saying that thanks to the minimalist palette of ports, the mac is usable for work, although I really like it for home use, but at work it's a very big minus.
Please try to give one single example where mac can be deployed across the board and offer you such added value against windows that it compensates for the cost. Leave out the sound and graphics, we know about those and it's a negligible number against the total number of PCs. If you look at the companies that deployed Macintosh across the board, it was always a political decision.
Actually, I totally agree with you. I work in multimedia, which is admittedly a somewhat specific field. However, I don't know much about AV devices. Can you give an example? So far I have encountered rather the opposite situation :)
Personally, letting the user choose has worked best for me. Forcing the user anywhere has always been counterproductive in my experience. I personally think that it is better to give the user a computer for 40 and have him satisfied with full productivity, than to save on a computer and have a person who works at 50%.
For example, control systems in buildings usually do not work on a Mac or do not even have a Mac version. User software for LEDs (today's LED billboards) have problems even on Windows, it doesn't exist on Mac at all, video walls from various manufacturers (I most often encounter Orions, they are the plasmas in TV studios) do not have a version for Mac at all (or I not found). Utility software for projectors (and I don't mean projectors from Alza for 15k) do have some utility software, but it doesn't work very well, for God's sake, cinema projectors are a little better, but I don't use them that often. In general, exploit programs for all AV devices such as various information and presentation systems, kiosks, etc. do not have a Mac version, even though they are large multinational companies. In addition, this SW always communicates with external HW, so it's not very good to emulate its operation somehow, because it brings a lot of problems, and I'm not even talking about how many devices have problems with DisplayPort->HDMI/DVI predecessors. And I'm not talking about those things at all, such as a serial port or an integrated LTE modem, which I simply use in the "field", I've been calling for it personally in Mac for many years and it's still not there, I don't really understand why.
When I was doing purely office work, there was no way for me to use macOS at work, I had Windows in dual boot, although it would have been possible, but I was the only one and no one wanted to go through so much work and customization for one person. Some things only work on the latest SW versions, because nowadays it's fashionable to make everything multi-platform, but how many companies change servers every year? 3 years ago I got burned because the company had a windows server from sometime in 2007(?) and at that time it was not common, so I simply did not mess around with the mac, let alone for example a CRM from MS to work on it and that at all I'm not talking about the problems Office for Mac had with the amount of macros, links, etc. that CRM exported using Excel.
Don't take me as a Mac hater, I've been using it for years and I'd love to use it as the only system, but Apple would have to do a bit of a shakeup and be more open to the rest of the world in the long term. Pretending that it is suitable for the job when there are many things that are not possible is simply a false idea. And generally looking for an alternative to something, although the company has a paid license from the original, is simply a bad approach. The standard in the corporate world today is Windows, I hope we can agree on that, we can also agree that it is possible to deploy a non-standard Mac there, we can also agree on the fact that it will bring either problems or higher costs, which simply must want the company to accept if they want to operate the maca. And hopefully we can agree on the fact that there are still quite a few cases where it is not possible without Windows.
To conclude somehow - it is possible to deploy a Mac in a field where Windows is the standard, but it is pointless to think that it will not be more expensive (and often by quite a bit only thanks to the price of hw) and that it will go smoothly. I'm honestly looking forward to the series, I'm also interested in it, but I'm curious if there will be at least one example where it wouldn't be easier to install Windows at half the price.
Thanks for the info. Personally, I don't really deal with any dimmers etc. and here we are only Barco, which has a 1:1 app on mac as well (and it's the same java madness on both).
I also use Barco and although the version for win is quite crazy, it is at least usable, for example, I was not able to use the projector toolset reliably for about a year on a macbook, and then I preferred to get rid of it. But it depends on the product, barco has a lot of applications, some are quite decent, others are unusable. The SW on the barco is generally unreliable, for the last year I have had a lot of problems resetting the lamp counters during replacements, no one understands why. But I encountered problems already at the manufacturer, during the training I finished the mac and wanted to primarily work on it, however, when the projector toolset was not able to "enable" during the morning, I still had to turn on the HP and work on it, explaining it to the people in Barc in Kortrijk that the problem is in their app and not in my mac would not work very well. In general, the problem is that few people in that environment have maca, so you have no one to ask for experience and advice. Everyone can give you advice on win, very little on mac.
Even the cloud doesn't seem like a good solution to me, or yes in companies but not at home, where you want to pay once and use it forever. After all, paying that kind of money annually for Office 365 for home use seems like an unnecessary amount to me, when I can buy the same thing in a box for 2,5k forever. Cloud prices are simply good for people who would otherwise pay for support and service and this will disappear with the cloud, on the other hand, for users who count on some initial investment and then nothing more (which is a typical home user), this is quite expensive. We'll see where it develops, from a vague perspective, this step and procedure is not very predictable.
I'm looking at office prices on alga now, the boxed version costs 2500 for home use, the online version costs 1500 a year...that's a hell of a high price, it's more worth it to buy a new office every time they come out, which is about once every 3- 4 years.
Me, I'm done with the cloud at home. CZK 175 per month for full Office 365 + 1TB of space does not seem like such a flight to me. Well, not because of office, but because I will give the same money to Google or anyone else if I want such cloud storage. I use it to backup photos. But I understand that someone will have it differently, a 4-disk NAS can probably solve it too. But we are there for 40k…
As for Barca, we never had a problem with him. We have a post-production toolkit (or whatever it's called). I also had the projector toolkit and it worked for me, but somehow I don't have much experience with it...
well, I pay for iCloud 200GB where I throw photos, I also thought about the competition with a larger capacity, but paying that kind of money to shove series and the like in there seemed like a waste to me. So now I'm paying about 80 CZK per month for the cloud, another hundred extra seems useless to me. But this is an example of us PC people. I can't imagine forcing cloud services on my sister, parents or grandparents. These days, companies don't focus much on these users, which I think is a shame.
Post Production? You don't have many problems there, in the first place, at least Barco is trying here, and secondly, if I remember correctly, your director puts up with the service a lot, so he is able to "guess" slightly above-standard services and parameters, and honestly, I once looked at what he was able to negotiate with Barca without having to pay extra for it, he is a good businessman in this respect :)…that is, if you work for an unnamed company on P10.
:) it will be us :) It's a fact that post-production is a lot of crap, that's a fact. However, even here it has its own…
My sister ended up in the cloud once or twice when she lost her computer and her only backup was a 2,5 hdd that brought her to her knees...
The 1TB is more likely to be perceived as putting the whole family there. Even if it's not enough for some. All you have to do is shoot in RAW (unfortunately, if you don't know what that means, it's just that it's the best setting in the camera)
Just a note about the cloud:
An older PC with a 1T disk, boot from a FreeNas system flash drive (free, including a time-adjustable snapshot of the entire system as a backup) and a package with Nextcloud (email, calendar, libreoffice online, https, ….), then a public IP is enough for access from the outside.
I haven't turned it off for the last six months.
But that's just an aside.
And yes, as owners of several Barco projectors, some of which we bought recently, we know how they have been lately... :)
I look forward.
Just on a side note regarding the high acquisition costs... I am writing this post on a fully functional iMac from 2010, in continuous use, the only costs I had for it were CZK 2500 for memory expansion.
If I had bought a regular PC back in April 2010 when I bought the iMac, I would have already chosen a THIRD computer and the cost would be much higher than with one iMac.
And why would you choose the PC for the third time? At home, we run an Acer Aspire 7720G from 2008, it has win 7 and if it weren't for the slightly slower processor today (Core 2 Duo 2.2GHz), it would be usable for more than just the web and office work. During that time, I only changed the battery (due to school and lectures at the time) and bought an SSD over time, but that's probably a fairly common adjustment. At the time of purchase, the Acer cost 2/3 of the plastic macbook, which had almost identical hardware, half or less of the iMac. I myself would be happy to pay extra for a macbook, but to claim that it will be cheaper in the end is very far-fetched.
Having the same Acer processor as your iMac will last another 5 years without the processor slowing it down. Also, ask the offices how often they change PCs, it's not more than once every 5 years, much less. Lying to yourself that a PC with Win will last for a maximum of 3 years is a bit of an exaggeration.
Own experience with the PC replacement interval before buying an iMac. I won't tell you any more, I know for myself how much time, energy and money I put into running my computer meaningfully in the pre-Mac era, and how much time, energy and money I've spent on it over the last 7 years (including a meaningful and reliable backup strategy).
It's not the PC's fault that you're left-handed. I usually have PCs in companies for more than 5 years without changing anything other than the RAM. If you claim that you had to change your PC every two years, then you are either a real loser or a bad person. Or you're comparing 8k laptops to a 50k iMac.
If the article looks like a Mac will last 10 or more years, while a PC will last at most two and then it goes to shit, I'm not at all surprised that people are swearing at iOvci. It's a good idea to ask what the average age of the computers in your company is. I can guarantee you that it will be twice as much as you state.
a) I am free to call myself what anyone calls me.
b) When I look at the computers in my own company, I only see 7 apple machines ranging in age from 2010 to 2015, so I know quite a bit about the average age of the computers in my company.
c) We talk all the time about my work iMac, which turns off 14 days a year when I go on vacation. Otherwise it runs continuously.
d) When I write THIRD, the first one was chosen at the same time as the iMac. The second would be selected after 3,5-4 years. The third would also be selected after 3,5-4 years. Is there something to be misunderstood? I didn't have to choose, I didn't have to buy either, I saved time and energy for other needs.
I don't know how it is with Widli today, and when I left them, the rule was that a new version of Widli = a new computer because of higher HW requirements. Once my power supply burned out and damaged the board = complete replacement. Once I had one RAM sent and he wanted to replace it with a new one = but sir, you have an older board (two years!) and new memories are no longer produced for it, i.e. another new computer. SORRY JAKO, the computer is a money making tool for me and I don't have the desire, time, energy or money to solve or debug out of tune. And I've happily avoided the Metro-type crap and issues with - what version was it - Windows 8.1 or 8.2 sort of, I don't follow it much.
I may be left-handed, but not dumb.
Oops. This article is not intended to arouse such passions.
you write nonsense
"new version of Widlí = new computer because higher HW requirements"
Windows 10 is actually a bit less demanding than Win7
Lord God, why are you punishing me? Back in 2010, when I bought the iMac, there was no Windows 10.
you wrote that new windows = new computer
I don't know what it has to do with the fact that in 2010 windows 10 didn't exist, if you bought a PC in 2010 with Windows 7, then, surprise, surprise, you wouldn't have to change any PC even in 2017, because Windows 10 runs better than Windows 7
so you just wrote nonsense
Who said I switched to an iMac from Windows 7?
I'm sorry, but I really don't know if you look like a fool or if you really are
you claimed that with a PC, a new version of Windows always means buying a new PC, which, as you can see, is nonsense, because Windows 10 can be run just fine even on PCs that were sold in 2010 with Windows 7
Look, you write in Slovak, but you think in Tatar. It is clear from my posts that in 2010 I had an old PC with Win older than 7, for you to understand better, XP. I was debating whether to upgrade to a new Win7 PC or go for an iMac. There was no Win 10 at the time - I can agree on that. It was true at the time - and 7% true when switching from XP to Win 2010 - that with a new OS, new hardware was necessary. Who knew in XNUMX that five or six years later there would be some boards with lower hardware requirements?
In addition, I saved myself a lot of work and nerves with the installation of new Win, used applications, settings, etc. With the iMac, I have been doing all this with my finger in my nose for the seventh year and I understand that people who make a living from HW IT are shit, because don't be rude
well, how old was the PC with Windows XP in 2010? 2 years? 4 years? 7 years? please try using a 2005 iMac today, it will probably be the same story as with that PC, right?
I didn't write anything else to you, except that I use Windows 2010 with a laptop (!!!) from 10, and after the upgrade the memory and SSD are flying like clockwork, so your claim "new Windows = new PC" is simply an untrue cliché
I am iOvce. Probably. And glad to. It's contagious. I want to work and have fun. It works with Mac. With Windows? As long as I had them, every now and then something didn't work and needed to be addressed. I don't deal with Mac. SW installation, upgrade, accessories, backup or recovery. The only thing holding back my 4 year old Mac was MS Office. I haven't had a problem since I deleted them. I upgraded my daughter to a Mac SSD. After about 1 hour, she continued working exactly where she had left off before. No reinstalling the system, no setting up the environment, applications, drivers, just nothing. I just copied the data within the basic SW equipment. Including the system. Until Win 7 it was unthinkable. I don't know what to do next. And the same can be said for a long time. Like Töchtle Möchtle - I'm just sharing my feelings. I don't force it on anyone.
I'm joining. I have the same experience. Something always had to be done with Win pc. Something still didn't work, or it wasn't the same. Either sw or hw. Buying a Mac saved me a lot of worry. And looks? Plastic shop with non-functioning hinges and wear noticeable after a year at the latest. Or a price close to that of Macs. My Macbook has one hairline scratch on the bottom after 4 years. Otherwise, you hardly recognize old age.
"I would choose a THIRD computer now and the cost would be much higher than with one iMac"
this is of course nonsense, until now I'm using an HP Elitebook 8540p (core i5-540M) from 2010, the only extras were memory and the addition of an SSD (so now thanks to modularity I have 1x SSD plus either a DVD or another 1 TB HDD, that's what the macbook is about didn't even dream that?)
really don't write cliches if you don't have experience