Ondrej Holzman One of the first Czechs to describe his experience with the new MacBook Pro with Touch Bar in more detail, is Michal Blaha. And it must be said that his verdict is not very positive. In the end, he returned the latest Apple computer to return to the older MacBook Air himself.
It is important to mention that Michal Blaha spends half of his time on the MacBook in macOS and half in Windows (virtualization via Parallels), where he uses various development tools.
I only used the new MacBook for two days. The Touch Bar highlights the fundamental differences between macOS and Windows. MacOS is controlled via keyboard shortcuts, you practically do not need the Fn keys (while in Windows you need them for basic keyboard shortcuts as well). That's why the Touch Bar makes a lot of sense on macOS.
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When working in Windows, you cannot do without the Fn keys. When programming even more, Visual Studio, various editors, TotalCommander, all these applications have the most common keyboard shortcuts built on the Fn keys.
Blaha perfectly described the difference in the operating philosophy of the two operating systems and why Apple could quite easily deprive the new MacBook Pro of a whole range of function keys. But if you move around in Windows and actively use them on a Mac as well, you may have a big problem without function keys.
Touch Bar is a touch surface with a display, matte, without relief. It doesn't give any feedback on whether you touch (and trigger an action under your finger) or not. It has no haptic feedback.
Expecting some kind of response when you put your finger on the Touch Bar is logical. Myself, during my first interactions with the new MacBook Pro, I expected the touch strip to respond to me in some way. And that's mainly because in such cases, other Apple products react to me in a similar way.
Considering where Apple has already deployed haptic feedback, it can be expected that this is also the future of the Touch Bar, but for now it is unfortunately just a "dead" display. In the iPhone 7, the haptic response is highly addictive and we have also known it for a long time, for example, from trackpads in MacBooks.
But the haptic response in the Touch Bar would be good especially for the fact that it would not be necessary to monitor so often what you are actually doing with your finger. Now, a rather schizophrenic situation can arise many times, when you use the Touch Bar to control what is happening on the display, but at the same time you have to check with at least one eye if you are correct. Without relief or haptic feedback, you have no chance of knowing.
The Touch Bar is clearly just at the beginning and we can expect that Apple will improve it in terms of hardware and software, however, as Michal Blaha points out, already "the Touch Bar is almost genius for creative activities (editing photos, working with video)".
If the Touch Bar and its poor usability in Windows were the only reason, it would have taken Blaha much longer to decide, but there were many more reasons for handing in the new MacBook Pro: the three-year-old MacBook Air lasts longer on its battery, it lacks MagSafe, the rising price does not bring that much higher performance and So far, USB-C is rather confusing. As a final negative point, Blaha describes the "increasing UX inconsistency of Apple products":
– The iPhone 7 (which I have) uses a Lightning to USB connector for charging. I will not connect it to the MacBook without a reduction.
– iPhone 7 does not have a jack connector, and the headphones have a Lightning connector. The MacBook has a jack connector, it doesn't have a Lightning connector, and iPhone headphones won't fit into the MacBook even through the adapter. I have to wear two headphones, or a reduction from the jack to Lightning!
– Apple does not supply a full USB-C cable for fast data transfers with the MacBook Pro for 60 crowns. I have to buy another one for 000 crowns. WTF!!!
– Apple didn't give me a USB-C to Lightning cable for either the phone or the laptop so I could charge the iPhone from the laptop. WTF!!!
– If I put the MacBook on top of the iPhone 7, the MacBook goes to sleep. They think I closed the display. Cool :-(.
– Unlocking your MacBook Pro is fun when you're wearing an Apple Watch. You can write a password, unlock with a fingerprint (Touch ID is lightning fast) or wait for the MBP to unlock the Apple Watch.
TouchID can also be used for shopping, for many things in the system where a password must be entered (for example, to show saved logins in Safari), but the Apple Watch cannot be used for the same.– Chaos in the MacBook Air (what will happen to it?), MacBook and MacBook Pro model lines and complete mystery as to what will happen next. I don't think they know.
Michal Blaha very aptly describes in a few brief points how many (at least for now) illogical decisions Apple has made recently. Many have already been discussed, such as the fact that you simply cannot connect headphones from the iPhone 7, which have Lightning, to any MacBook at all, and conversely, you have to use a dongle, or that you cannot connect an iPhone to a MacBook Pro without an additional cable at all.
But the most important is probably the last remark about the chaos in the model lines, when it is certainly not only Michal who is dealing with a big dilemma. For the time being, the place of the newest computer remains with the relatively old Air, which is not enough especially with the display, because, like everyone else, they have no idea what will actually happen with the other Apple laptops. The most viable path, which I myself took some time ago, seems to be to switch to the older MacBook Pro from 2015, which now comes out the best in terms of price / performance, but it is definitely not a good calling card for Apple if users will look more closely at after such elections.
But since other Apple laptops remain uncertain, we can't be surprised by customers. What will happen next with the MacBook - will it remain only in the 12-inch model, or will there be an even bigger one? Is the replacement for the MacBook Air really (and illogically) a MacBook Pro without a Touch Bar?
Yes, many of Apple's steps are illogical, but the new MacBook is simply much better than the older models. I myself have a MacBook Pro 2016 without Touch Bar and I cannot praise it enough. For a price 5000 higher than the 2015 model, you get a better computer in almost all respects. The only complaint could be the connectors..
As long as they are fast :-)
And how are you doing with your stamina? The experience above scares me quite a bit, that the new machines would have so much less endurance :(
8-10h, practically the same as MB Pro 2015 with similar specifications
users write something completely different...however, I would wait for the first update, on the one hand, macbooks will get two generations newer processors (allegedly skipping Keby lake) and on the other hand, there is speculation about amoled displays. Personally, I like the new Macbook Pro a lot, but like any first product from a new model line, it will certainly have bugs.
If you want a replacement for the old Air, the basic 13″ without TouchBar will do just fine.
13″ MBP with TouchBar is also ok imo and it doesn't make much sense to wait a year longer, if someone has a MBP 13 2013 and older at home, it pays to update today.
I'm more cautious about the 15″ model, it costs $3500 in a reasonable configuration and I might wait a year or two to see what the user experience will be.
The basic 13″ Macbook is ok, but it seems to me that for the unnecessary 7k they cut the processor enough, in terms of performance, but I might be wrong.
What scares me is the fact that according to the wiki the old 13″ Macbook Pro had a 75Wh battery and the new one has “only” a 50Wh battery… and I doubt they would reduce the consumption by some 40% to achieve the same endurance
The new MBP has a high brightness display, maybe it will help to learn how to regulate the intensity...anyway, I don't evaluate the consumption yet, it is quite possible that in a year the battery life of the updated models will increase similar to the 12″ MacBook Early2016 compared to the first Early 2015.
Well, it can be so. The model without a touch bar has the weakest processor, so paradoxically it can be better with endurance than the more expensive models with a touch bar.
Model without Touch Bar for higher battery capacity than model with TB.
Unfortunately, that single complaint is, in my opinion, the most important for most users...
I understand that these are probably quotes from Mr. Blaha, but please correct his grammatical mistakes and typos. Some phrases then make no sense at all ("and I don't plug iPhone headphones into Apple even through the adapter. They have to wear two headphones or an audio-lightening adapter!" etc.)
1. Function keys can be locked in Parallels as follows: System Settings/Keyboard/Shortcuts/Function Keys and add Parallels Desktop.app. After that, the function keys on the Touch Bar will be displayed stably. In addition, Parallels is developing support for it.
2. Just buy a USB-C to lightning cable and you don't need to carry an iPhone charger as it can be charged from a MacBook Pro charger. I bought the smaller 29W for the MacBook Pro, which comes with the MacBook 12′, it charges both the MacBook Pro and the iPhone.
3. In the case of headphones, they are obviously aiming for their wireless ones, which they are going to start selling. A few months ago, Apple asked users if they used the headphone jack on their MacBook, apparently they plan to drop it completely.
4. The keyboard is great
5. The battery lasts 7-8 hours, but I have an i7 3.3GHz.
6. The USB-C cable should be “active”… for the money…
I can't help it, I have to write it. Another click-bait headline? I was looking forward to the announced transformation of Jablíčkář, and so far the change for the worse for me. In the last month and only one constructive article: http://jablickar.cz/jak-blokovat-spam-a-pozvanky-v-kalendari/ otherwise, for now, more like Light Flight...
If I wrong you and the articles are in preparation, I apologize.
Jablíčkař has the courage to objectively describe to the Apple community, among other things, Apple's not always ideal steps. Let's be glad that there is someone like that here at all. Because writing only with rose-colored glasses about the current Mac product line would be popular, but not factual. A hard-to-understand mess in the product line combined with an absurdly long machine changeover period (let's remember that under Steav it happened twice every year - viz. early, mid or late) - it's just not a good business card. The rapid decline in Mac sales speaks for itself.
So more Jablickars like that - and maybe thanks to such responses it will sometimes happen to the comrades at Apple as well.
Evidently, you did not understand my post at all, and neither did René Becker's post. The point is not in the topic, but in the form that Jablickar.cz "newly" uses. Paradoxically, there was an article about how they "thought deeply" about the content of what they were creating and would like to return to substantive articles. Unfortunately, the trend of “flame/hate/click-bait” articles continues…
Experience with the non-touch bar version - everything is top-notch (display, brightness, keyboard, speed of SSD and ports, speed of the device itself), I have no problem with the number and type of ports), the only thing (and what is essential for me) is battery life - average 6,5 .50 hours at 75% brightness (Safari - turned off Flash, TextWrangler, at least Word + Excel) - this is a terrible disappointment for me. I also tried an HD movie from Itunes according to Apple's methodology - 10% brightness, it should last 7 hours - it lasted XNUMX. With the only Apple, it was always true that the battery life was always at a minimum. Not anymore :-(
Agreed, I'm an hour worse on the i7 late 2016 than I was on the previous i7 late 2013.
This describes exactly how I feel. I have the option to exchange last year's model for this year's, but I simply don't want to, because from my point of view, I would be doing myself a disservice and instead of a working device, I would get a piece of crap requiring, among other things, only reductions for use with other Apple products. If they don't learn a lesson with the next model, I'll have to run away from Mac years later :-(
Next year, you won't want a port other than USB-C. A device with a USB-A old Thunderbold in the Display port will look out of place. At the same time, for today it is enough to buy a tiny USB-C to USBA-A adapter for 200 CZK.
USB-C to Displayport or HDMI cables will be the standard, USB-C will be on chargers, power banks, monitors, data projectors, etc. Heck, being a pioneer can bring small problems at the beginning.
In addition, the iPhone 8, I'm guessing will have a USB-C charger and a lightning - USB-C cable.-
that's another piece of shit, how dare you do it
So you want to tell us that next year, Mr. FX will throw away all the devices he recently bought and replace them with new ones, with usb-c?
ok i take it
so let's all wait to buy a new cat until next year... (if it feels better, it should be until next November), and let's not buy one
because obviously the new Mac for PC is not suitable for this year. for this year, it's a naked laptop
can't we agree on that?
(and next year will there be discount coupons for the other devices that I have to replace so that they can use usb-c?
…you moron
Dear Sir,
it is interesting how little it takes for such a plebeian and weakling to get the courage to insult strangers even in a technical discussion. All you have to do is choose an anonymous acronym that doesn't mean anything, and a lifelong miser is suddenly a strongman.
If you don't have imagination, enough intellect, and if you don't remember that the same discussions took place when removing the floppy drive, CD drive, dropping the parallel port and replacing USB, etc., then you better not embarrass yourself in public. As then and now, Apple was the first to have the courage.
No one has to throw away their machines like back then, they just get old a little earlier. The new ones with only USB-C are not a step back, but a new standard for several years. After all, we all long for a single connector for everything, and lo and behold, we have it here.
Just like back then removed drives and ports could be replaced, so even today absolutely everything can be done via USB-C. I don't understand why it should bother me to buy new USB-C to HDMI cables for a computer for 80 CZK, a new USB memory stick with both connectors? I also have a second USB-C source for the future and for several years. In addition, it also powers the iPhone and other devices of other brands. Finally a universal connector!
Next year, most computers will be like that, and USB-A will seem obsolete. In addition, other devices in the home will gradually have USB-C and the need to own additional cables such as HDMI, Display port, mini display port, etc. will end.
Basically, he just criticizes Apple for the existence of the lightning connector, he could easily put USB-C in the iPhone. That way, you would only need one single cable for everything.
The next phase of USB-C could be the implementation of an ethernet interface. If they put POE in the wall sockets and we could connect laptops to ethernet and power at the same time, that would be great.
Well, you're way out of line and remember this in a year. :-))))
That's beyond you, remember in a year. No new computer will be sold without USB-C. USB-A is gradually disappearing as a serial and parallel port. The worst thing is that you yourself will want USB-C without even knowing it now.
That's a very naive opinion... :-/
How do you think that manufacturers will ignore the USB-C standard, won't install it in their products, won't USB-A gradually disappear? So you guys have a very naive opinion.
The worst thing is that you yourself will want USB-C without even knowing it now.
Of course, they will not ignore USB-C, but they will deploy it gradually. I don't have a single reason to want one yet, and I doubt that will change anytime soon.
But it just wasn't like that at Apple. A person bought a Mac and didn't have to deal with anything. As with last year's model... I unpacked the box, calmly connected the flash, inserted the memory card from the camera, connected it via HDMI to the monitor, connected the iPhone, connected the EarPlugy (I don't connect the current one anymore)... A year later, a model arrived with which nothing happened I won't do it... Not unless I carry around 5-10 reductions with me everywhere. If they made two USB-C and two classic USB, I wouldn't even say ashes... It's just wrong like that and the computer is suitable for home use with a dock.
Could you please list the 5-10 reductions you need?
I think something like this is enough: https://sandberg.it/nl-be/product/USB-C-Dock-HDMI-Plus-VGA-Plus-LAN-Plus-USB-Plus-SD
If you don't like it, buy another one: http://www.kabelmanie.cz/usb-huby_d320.html
Do you think that if I have a tiny 29W USB-C charger of similar dimensions to the iPad, USB-C, a cable and one of the adapters on top in my bag, then I'm missing something on my computer? After all, I have ethernet, an SD card slot, USB 3.1, HDMI 4K...
If I remember correctly, the same discussion was when Apple removed the DVD drive. People like you wrote that they had nothing to install programs with, that they had to carry an external drive with them. Do you still wear it?
You are comparing the incomparable. They removed the DVD drive when people practically didn't use it for years. Older USBs are being phased out now that people are using them massively, and USB-C is the music of the future (maybe).
The reduction is hell, not really. I want to be able to just plug in headphones or even an iPhone on the go without having to lug such a monstrosity. With the MBP 2015, I don't have to carry anything extra with me and it's great.
Personally, I would need a reduction for headphones, USBC-HDMI, an external card reader, USBA-USBC and I certainly haven't remembered everything yet...
I agree. You can't keep insisting on outdated connectors. Unified is the logical path, and USB-C appears to be a promising connector. We've survived the loss of the serial connector, SCSI, CD/DVD drive, VGA connector, FireWire, there's no reason not to survive unification. :)
What about the new headphones from Beats and their USB Micro-B charging connector? "Universal USB charging cable (USB-A to USB Micro-B)"
In my opinion, this article cannot be considered authoritative, it is such a weak "recommendation"...
I have a lot of friends who have Macbooks, but no one wants the new model and everyone is disappointed.
I have enough friends who have MacBooks, and enough of them are considering the new model because they have no reason to be disappointed.
So I agree that the UX is better. Apple is no longer a company for professionals. Instead of professionals, they try to address customers with smileys in the touch bar :-)
The hell with reductions and cables is another failure of Apple. At least they could update all products so that the USB C/Thunderbolt 3 connector is everywhere.
And as for the maximum 16GB of RAM, that's another Apple failure. Apple apparently considers someone who can run a Keynote presentation and can run Mail to be a professional.
Maybe apple ceases to be a company for Slovaks, who do not know that Touch bar and USB-C have far more functions and more meaning for professionals.
Was Apple ever a company for Slovaks? So far, there is not even an online store for Slovakia.
USB-C will be for professionals when I'm in the market for USB-C devices. It is more interesting to make devices for Thunderbolt 3 than for USB-C.
As for the Touch Bar, Petr Mara also says that it is not suitable for professionals because it disrupts the workflow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCO8nlDlFAM
Ah, as Petr Mára said, the train doesn't go through it...
Thanks for the video, I think it will be user to user, the Touch bar will be perfect for sliders for example, we'll see what time will bring. :)
Apple's "pride" does not allow USB-C to be used in the iPhone 8. Although I agree that it would be a completely logical step.
Pride and profit, unfortunately. They don't have a monopoly on USB-C like they do on lightning. But you obviously understood that the first universal connector, combining everything including power supply, is coming after decades. For a long time it was just a dream.
Non-believers should know that the HDMI licensing organization released the so-called HDMI alternate for USB-C specification on September 1.9, 2016. They had to admit that their connector will probably move to USB-C. The Display port organization released a similar specification back in 2014. I think it's settled. There will be USB-C everywhere.
Description of HDMI alternate USB-C here: http://www.usb.org/developers/presentations/USB_DevDays_Hong_Kong_2016_-_HDMI_Alt_Mode_USB_Type-C.pdf
The image can be transferred via USB for a long time thanks to MHL...HDMI licensing allows them to pay a tithe for each device, also for each cable, and the moment the MHL spreads, they would lose their source of income. The displayport organization did this, in my opinion, mainly because of apple, who probably pushed for this move. As with DisplayPort and Thunderbolt. Vesa (owner of DisplayPort) as well as Intel/Apple (creators of Thunderbolt) essentially came together there.
However, both organizations will have to pay tens for the hdmi/display port protocol from the manufacturer of the monitor and the computer, even if there will be a USB-C connector on both sides of the cable. Not only the connector does HDMI.
That's why I'm waiting for rocket expansion.
Where is the problem?
You are wrong, there is no charge for DisplayPort. MHL can also be played via USB, so it should have the chance to replace HDMI...which would then not be available in some devices. With this, the HDMI alliance secured its place on the market
Thank you for the warning, the display port is licensed, but free of charge. You're right.
I don't see a problem in the coexistence of USB-C for Macs and lightning for iOS.
Don't be angry with me, but building an article under such a challenging title on the quotes of a user who returned an MBP with TB because he works with Windows that are not optimized for TB (the world is surprised) seems absurd to me - especially after the announced transformation of Jablíčkár. :(
Consent - the article is essentially a transcription of what the original author wrote on his blog. If this is intended to be a Jablickare change, it really didn't work out.
exactly as I wrote below, this is really crazy
Get used to it, gentlemen, or understand that our reality under Cook also includes negative articles about Apple. The new MacBook Pro is nice and an individual could be happy with it and learn to live with the limitations of USB-C and also remember that it is different on each side of the computer.
But will you buy a new MacBook Pro for your company employees? No! It is not user friendly. An ordinary user is not an Apple maniac and will never understand why he could not simply work with a new computer, or why should he think about how to arrange it so that he can work at all. Therefore, the consequence of the new MacBook Pros (in addition to the overall chaos in the product line) will be sooner or later a further decline in Mac sales. And it was starting to look so promising. :(
The article is not negative at all, these are quotes from the product of a sixty-year-old old man who bought a new MBP and returned it after a week, because he was sorry to pay 60 papers for it... moreover, it is quite often internally contradictory, first the old man starts by saying that necessarily he needs 16GB of RAM and then he ends up saying that the old Air is actually enough for him...and half of the puzzle is Windows...
Blaha is some dumbass and at Jablíčkář they decided that they will quote the dumbass no more, it's the freedom of the internet, everyone can publish their stupid things on the blog.
Anyone who is interested in a relevant comparison should look, for example, at Petra Mára's videos on YT, or Vladi Janeček's videos on his YT channel.
Vláďa Janeček is the most well-founded Apple expert in the Czech Republic, he has published many books about OS X, and there is no one in the Czech Republic with the extent of his knowledge.
Petr Mára is a walking advertising oven for Apple, but his videos are interesting.
Insulting Blaha just because he doesn't have such refined positive opinions about the new MacBooks as you do, that's in poor taste!
Especially when it's obvious from Blaha's puzzles that he doesn't understand the point of ranks at all...
I will contribute my opinion a bit… When I read about the leaks over the summer, I was really thinking that the new MBP could replace my 13 MBP 2013″, which I would still sell for quite a bit. Even during the presentation, my feelings prevailed that I would buy a new 13″ with TB. After seeing the price, I lost my appetite and decided not to go for it. In case I wait at least for the first review. Unfortunately, I was more and more disappointed with the new MBP every day. And the fact that it only has USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 doesn't bother me at all. I don't want to slander the build quality of the MBP, which I think is probably still high, but I'm more concerned with the fact that I expect to get an extension cable for the charger and a full-fledged USB-C cable for this one. In general, I have a bad feeling about the new MacBook Pro, so I'll see what happens next...
I am considering buying a 15″ MacBook Pro with dedicated graphics. I'm just not sure how AMD's new graphics are doing with OpenGL support. I work with Cinema 4D Studio R16, where I use multiple rendering engines (bias and unbias). With Nvidia, I'm used to calculations using CUDA units. Has anyone tested the performance of an AMD chip?
My guess is that AMD and CUDA don't go together.
https://www.quora.com/Does-CUDA-work-on-AMD-GPUs
interesting link. Thanks :-)
If someone has an iPhone 7 and a MacBook Pro to buy, they have no problem buying a Lightning - USB-C cable for a few hundred crowns.
That's not the point, the point is that these are new devices that you just basically can't connect to each other with a cable when you need it. Until now, it was a matter of course, which Apple is burying in the coffin again.
Well, it seems simple to me. Apple has been betting on wireless for a couple of years now, and its users feel the same way (he has never looked back at them and I don't think he will start now). I haven't connected the iPhone to the computer for a couple of years, I manage everything via iCloud when I happen to charge it from a power bank outside the house (it's faster and I did it that way even when I had a previous macbook pro with classic usb). I've had wireless headphones for a couple of years (Beoplay H5 for sport, now I've replaced Bose with Sennheiser PXC-550 for casual listening and both work without problems). I have a bluetooth mouse and a dock at work/home. As for the touchbar function, it is possible to determine in the settings in which applications only F-keys will be displayed by default (so in Parallels, one can set the function keys to always be displayed). Well, with the model advice, it seems to me that it is also quite clear. In the future, the Air will not be used for some time and the MacBook will remain as the basic 12″ variant, and then the MacBook Pro in 13″ and 15″ variants.
And what about the impossibility of expanding the operating memory and even the impossibility of replacing the disk. Well, Apple has gone too far... I'm also staying with the 4-year-old Air and if bad circumstances force me to buy a new one, I'll choose the Air again or even the older Pro.
Apple just didn't get this right….
So the previous Pro version did not allow memory expansion either. You got what you configured. However, at least the SSD could be replaced.
Here the answer is quite simple. Simply put up with the fact that a laptop, i.e. a mobile computer, will be more and more similar in design to an iPad rather than a desktop PC. And there, too, no one expects you to take it apart and change components. It's a logical evolution of mobile devices, the main advantage of which is that they are portable, not DIY-friendly. Sooner or later everyone will come to this.
I'm also not all about the new MBP when it comes to wiping, but I wouldn't go back to the old Retina, it also had its problems, such as the peeling off of the anti-reflective layer from the display, etc. Air is already a historical artifact, if it's currently enough, there's no reason to change it right away, but buy it today as a new machine? Not really.
correction: not really "at the rapture", but "at the rapture" ;)
When I realistically evaluate my personal needs, when I no longer deal with graphics or video as much as I used to, the Air is more than enough for my needs, and an iPad Pro with a keyboard case would also be enough for me. What strikes me about the PRO book is not only the lack of connectivity or the complicated connectivity with the iPhone and other non-Apple peripherals, but mainly the impossibility of replacing the SSD. Why? After all, it was a matter of 10 minutes. I think that's a foul I could forgive for a basic book. But not with PRO. But I understand that Apple is increasingly focusing on the overwhelming crowd of so-called ordinary users, and those who really want to create something professionally should buy a big machine for NOK 120.000. But so be it. A true professional will earn it easily and quickly. :-)
Jirka, you are a fool also because you have no idea that onboard memories have been around for some time, regardless of the fact that the possibility of replacing the ssd is rather theoretical, because the only alternative disks from owc have a relatively high consumption and significantly shorten the battery life.
I would almost try to guess if you are not directly Mr. Troubelín Blaha?
So many fools in one discussion would take a long time to find.
Blaha is a fool, only a fool would go back from the new MBP Retina to the old Air with a TN panel and terrible parameters and outdated resolution.
The only thing that can be agreed with is the absence of magsafe.
Calling someone a fool just because they have different priorities and uses than you is stupid in my opinion…..
The MacBook Air is an obsolete shunt, someone who has a choice between a new RETINA MacBook and an old Air and chooses the Air deserves no other label than a fool, will you also drive a Trabant when given the choice between a Trabi and a VW Passat?
Retina is no holy grail. Not everyone wants it and longs for it, it's just a "feeling" made of crayons. Personally, I don't miss Air at all. Am I a fool then? So I repeat, calling others a fool based on their different priorities is a pathetic and stupid insult that makes a fool out of you. :-)
Yes you are, just by the amount of spelling mistakes you managed to cram into those few sentences, you might even be a pauper. Despite the fact that the retina has nothing to do with the "feeling" of the colors :-) Each of the retina panels has a different gamut.
Your need to boost your own poor ego not only by ridiculous bullshitting but mainly by insulting others just because of their different opinion speaks volumes about you. And it's not pretty. But I won't insult you in any way, you can handle it perfectly on your own. Full stop from my side.
It's not about opinion, it's about common sense. However, explaining to someone that the retina has nothing to do with the "feeling" of the crayons, i.e. with the gamut, that Air is antediluvian scrap... #priceless :)
The Air may be an antediluvian piece of junk, but today it's the only Apple laptop that fits an office with more than 1 employee. So the fool is not the one who buys the Air, but the one who shrunk the model advice from Apple like that. All new MacBooks are unusable for the office.
I have been buying Macs for the company for 20 years and I have never experienced such hopelessness as now. And although I really don't like it, I bought 2 Airs this week.
What is the office unusability? Well, it's not that I'm excited about the new MacBooks, but I don't really understand this...
BTW the new MBP13 is smaller than the original 13″ Air, weighs the same (20g difference), has retina and powerful Intel, so writing that the Air is the only one usable in the office is an argument like a tractor is the only suitable vehicle for big cities.
You're seriously an idiot, because the Air is overpriced junk, just because of that horrible TN panel. Those who don't want performance have the 12″ Core M model, and the 2015 Pro series is still on sale, so even if someone doesn't want reductions and doesn't have such a need for the most powerful iron, the 2015 models are still in store as CTO. However, since the introduction of the basic 2.0GHz Pro without TouchBar, I wouldn't even buy a CoreM, if you're thinking about buying an MB12 with CoreM, the only option that makes a bit of sense is the 1.2GHz/512GB 2016 (longer battery life and slightly more powerful than the same 2015 model) … BUT for the price of NOK 47, I recommend taking a MacbookPro 990 basic 13 without TouchBar instead, there are already two USB ports, the performance of a full-fledged 2016GHz i2.0 is somewhere else than CoreM, you don’t have to worry about noise, and it is something heavier and costs almost the same... NOK 5
The advantage of the CoreM 12” MacBook is maximum mobility, so it is suitable for someone who is used to the 11.6” Air.
Even the original MBP13 RETINA 2015 is only slightly heavier than the Air and offers an incomparably better IPS panel, is noticeably more powerful and has a very good battery life. The MBP13 2016 without TocuhBar is clearly offered as a successor to the 5” Air, thanks to the reduced clock speed of the i2.0 to 13GHz.
The only person who before 2013 the Air could have mattered is someone who had it connected to an external panel most of the time… but you won't connect any of the new 4K/4K panels to the Air anyway… the Air has a maximum resolution of 2560×1600 making it not only backward but completely unusable in the future... (I'm sure there are a lot of fools for whom a hundred is enough) but it's the end of 2016, not 2009, so the argument that most of the time I have the Air connected to an external panel also falls flat. Since 2013, when the new retina was introduced, Air is a dead line.
One needs to understand the basic premise…
Air 11.6” successor to the 12 Core M Macbook
Air 13″ successor MBP 13 2016 nonTouchBar 1.4/1.6GHz to 2.0GHz/2.4GHz
MBP13” 2015 Successor MBP13 2016 TouchBar 2.7/2.9/3.1GHz to 2.9/3.1/3.3GHz
The Air13 is bigger than the 13 MBP2016 and both weigh the same:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8JMewmHtbk
In fact, the debate is about something else, all those who defend the Air series so much do not have the money for the Pro, or they are sorry to spend the money on a better laptop, there is nothing more to it, it is also the case of the oven that the article is about Well done. They simply prefer to drive a cheap Trabant rather than paying extra for a Subaru.
Congratulations to “A1…”. You have lowered yourself to the level of Zeman voters. And a little more and you might even surpass their pattern.
I voted for Zeman based on the recommendation of his Excellency Andrew Schapiro from the US Embassy, despite the loud opposition of the members of the so-called "Prague Cafe", who are so stupid that they publish their statements on a Macbook Air, that's why their candidate Karel Schwarzenberg lost the election, he had team with technologically backward equipment. In our Zeman team, we all had MBP Retina, even Mynář, only Mr. President had Slivovici.
Okay. You are young, arrogant, rich and you don't like people. So actually, even if you had something to say, it's still worthless. Because you swear and kick around like a faggot. You draw attention to the spelling, which you then vilify yourself. And you would prefer to turn an ordinary village debate into a fight, but you would still run away from it. So that something doesn't happen to you with an expensive gadget that you like to adorn yourself with.. Isn't "Majk je panák" your role model? Or is it not you?
If there was an "admin", then you are just a candidate for that, having to make another "cool" profile for your "need"
It must be hard to be stupid and poor at the same time, otherwise I can't explain such an incredibly stupid reaction. :)
I no longer like the price/performance ratio on the new Macbook. Early Macbooks were good value Unix machines compared to what was available at the time. But the new Macbooks have become quite expensive and compared to the market, they are no longer so advantageous. Some kind of touchbar is quite a steal for me, especially since most of the time I need a large keyboard, mouse and two external 24″ monitors. Throwing away USB connectors is also a mistake. I understand that it might be good for work on the go, but for work it's really not a huge improvement. Apple has let me down, it's going downhill.
OK for packing girls, but not really usable for work
I promised Mr. Blaha at his own request on Twitter that I would write him a comment on his delusions about the new 2016 MBP, so here it is (what is in quotes are quotes from Michal Blaha's original blog).
As one of the first Czechs, I had a new MBP13 without TB and with TB at my disposal, and now I have a new MBP15 on my desk for two days, which I am returning to the reseller at the weekend.
The TouchBar is perfectly OK, it's intuitive and pleasant, it's great to use, but it's not a must-have feature.
The main advantage of the new MBP 2016
First and foremost is the sound, it's grandiose...the best it's ever been.
In second place is the possibility of recharging on the go from a power bank via usbc.
In third place, a higher intensity of brightness and a wider gamut of the display. Personally, I prefer the displays in the retina 2015 product line.
Disadvantages of the new MBP2016.
Clearly the absence of a magsafe...that's beyond debate.
For the basic nonTouchBar model, only two usbc ports.
Ad you patchwork of Mr. Blaha:
"But I refuse to color code or describe which - visually indistinguishable - USB-C cable is for charging and which for fast data transfer"
So throw the charger in the trash and use only one type of cable, there's nothing easier. Then you don't have to mark anything.
“Performance/price. The notebook cost 30% more than a comparable 13” MacBook Pro in 2014 (CPU performance +- the same, graphics 3x slower, disk 4x slower) with an effective endurance 25% higher. The increase in performance does not match the increase in price. As of 2011, the MacBook was comparable in price to similar Windows machines. Now the price jumps 1/3 over the quality and performance of similar machines for Win, for no apparent reason.”
I'll pause here for "for no apparent reason" you're off the hook again, for the first long-term intervention of the CNB on the exchange rate of the koruna, for the second a higher sales tax than in the USA, and for the third, the general increase in prices of all Czech premium resellers, which took place about two years ago
Other non plus ultra bullshit:
"Now the price jumps 1/3 higher compared to the quality and performance similar to machines for Win"
Please give me a link to several machines with similar quality and performance with Win, because I follow the laptop market, but there is no comparable laptop with MBP on the market...
conditions:
same quality sound as MBP (baf there is no such Win laptop)
unibody all-metal construction (baf there is no such Win laptop)
comparable real battery life, not a paper value (baf no such Win laptop exists)
a comparable level of silence during laptop operation (baf there is no such Win laptop)
just as fast SSD (real, not paper value) (baf there is no such Win laptop)
at least a QHD+ IPS panel….
You'll find plenty of laptops that pretend to have similar performance, but none of them have comparable battery life, none of them have a unibody all-metal construction, none of them are comparably quiet... not to mention that none of them have OS X.
You know a lot about quality, if you saw the disassembled Dell XPS13 Windows laptop quality standard, you would understand that it is a cheap Chinese conglomeration of electronics in plastic between two aluminum plates (by the way, with a terrible flat presentation)...
The Thinkpad X1 Carbon (which most Windows users are proud of) has a fairly fast SSD drive (on the MBP2015 level), in fact it reaches the speed of the first SSD drives on the SATA3 interface, i.e. the real speed of writing and reading is about ten times slower than in MBP2016.
A few comments on your observations:
"Apple does not supply a full USB-C cable for fast data transfers with the MacBook Pro for NOK 60.000. I have to buy another one for 500. WTF!!!”
Go hang yourself.
“Apple didn't give me a USB-C to Lightning cable for either the phone or the laptop so I could charge the iPhone from the laptop. WTF!!!”
Go hang yourself or buy a reduction.
"Chaos in the model lines of MacBook Air (what will happen to it?), MacBook and MacBook Pro and complete mystery as to what will happen next. I don't think they know themselves."
There is no chaos in the model lines, you just have a limited range of thought to understand:
basic premise…
Air 11.6" whose successor is the 12 Core M Macbook.
Air 13” whose successor is MBP 13 2016 nonTouchBar (1.4/1.6GHz to 2.0GHz/2.4GHz)
MBP13” 2015 whose successor is MBP13 2016 TouchBar 2.7/2.9/3.1GHz to 2.9/3.1/3.3GHz
Is there anything else to be misunderstood? Does the three lines: (sale Air) Macbook (CoreM) and MacBook Pro sound like chaos? Other manufacturers normally have 150 different models on the market at the same time, and you say that Apple has chaos in it?
"Apple does not supply a full USB-C cable for fast data transfers with the MacBook Pro for NOK 60.000. I have to buy another one for 500. WTF!!!”
If I pay 60k for a laptop, maybe the 500 doesn't even matter. What bothers me more is the fact that I will only find out after the purchase and waste time buying another cable. That would really annoy me. Apple could have raised the price by CZK 500 and included the cable.
“Apple didn't give me a USB-C to Lightning cable for either the phone or the laptop so I could charge the iPhone from the laptop. WTF!!!”
Buying a reducer again - same problem, I have to go and buy it. Plus now I have an extra reduction to carry around.
Grandiose sound from laptop speakers looks good on paper, but how often will I use it? When I'm at home, I have external speakers, which of course are much better than the built-in ones. When I'm on the road, I usually listen through headphones => almost zero use.
The price increase is therefore incomprehensible on Apple's part. If they reduced the price or left it the same, I would still understand, but they are losing customers unnecessarily like this.
Those who use their brains will order a reducer and a cable straight away when buying an MBP in the Apple Store, the offer is wide enough, even YTber Casey Neistat, who didn't catch much cleverness, ordered an MBP straight away with a reducer and a card reader...
BTW everyone automatically orders the "usbctousba" reduction imo... Pixel users are best off with the new MBP, they have a working cable straight from Google.
If they used the brains at Apple, we wouldn't have to force users to think for the manufacturer. And users to spend effort and money to smooth out the mistakes of the comrade from Cupertino.
Not that I would agree with the detractors, but if I'm buying something for 60k, I'll think about it a bit, if not and it's expensive for me, I'll go to a store where they'll give me advice.
Personally, I think this spitting on Apple for a couple of cables is embarrassing. I think that in a year or two I simply won't have to deal with this, because USB will finally be the standard. Apple really has bigger problems than some stupid cable that is in stock.
I would take it like this as a starting point, but:
Air 13” whose successor is the MBP 13 2016 nonTouchBar
– However, the price says something else, Air can be bought every other month at Elektre for 25, compared to MBP for 45.
For me, there is no equivalent replacement for even a 12″ overpriced piece of crap without USB when I charge it (I always do that) + I have one USB full at the moment and use the other occasionally, so I would need at least 3 with power supply :-(. In addition, it has a slower processor than the iPhone or my old Air.
The fact that MBP is for professionals and that it is powerful and expensive does not bother me at all, I am concerned with a stable OS and average (or below average) performance.
The only thing that bothers me about the Air is that it has a bad display.
You can't compare the price, the 12″ CoreM also costs almost twice as much as the 11,6″ MBA… in reality it is the successor of the 11.6″ MBA as well as the nonTouchBar MBP2016 with two usbc is actually the successor of the 13″ Air (it is the cheapest), it is smaller than the 13″ The Air, weighs the same, and of all the new MBPs is the least powerful 2.0GHz Intel (again sitting next to the basic 1.4 and 1.6GHz Airum), it's the logical successor to the Retina…
However, the fact is that even the MBP 2013-2015 13″ Retina is only about 300g heavier and slightly deeper than the 13″ Air… so the Air has not made much sense in my view for several years due to the poor TN panel with low resolution. (perhaps only for those who had it permanently connected to a Thunderbolt display)
"Besides, it has a slower processor than the iPhone or my old Air." It's not like that, you can't compare ARM (iPhone/iPad) vs Intel... like in GeekBench they might have a similar score, but ARM, even if it's quite powerful today, is on x86 it lacks in many things, it lacks AES NI and a lot more…
Sure, I'm just trying to say that for me there is no replacement for the built-in Air from Apple, because I'm not willing to pay more than 40k for an average computer (I have it for small things with multimedia and things that can't be done on an iPad or iPhone).
If the Air cost 30k and the Pro 35k, then probably yes, because it has a much better display, but the Air can be bought just fine for 25k (the lowest model that is enough for me) and vice versa for 45 Pro, that's just too much.
So as soon as Air ends, I have no choice and will have to cut MAC. Too bad :-(.
And the worst thing is that Windows is not solved and Linux does not have iTunes. In short, I'm in awe ;-).
I must apologize for the wrong information. The MacBook Pro i7 3.3GHz with TouchBar really only lasted me 4 hours at first. In the end, I didn't think so and started searching. Dropbox was to blame, it used a lot of power, I had to uninstall it, install it and have everything sync again. The problem disappeared. Now I write 50 min. in Pages, I'm on WiFI 2.4GHz, the display brightness is at about 80%, AirMail is running in the background, the battery is at 90% and the laptop shows 7:00.
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People who take a computer as a tool (shovel) - not as a status symbol (which is also often meaningless because cats are not the most expensive devices they can buy), think twice.
Unibody is a waste and a precision of technology, the carbon alloy is far more durable. A little bit of everything is possible, but it is also significantly lighter.
People only use NTB sound at home if they have a desktop and there is no one there to disturb them. Outside, in the chancel with the others, one puts on headphones. Otherwise at home I have a desktop or boxes in the dock
As for endurance, there are laptops that can last even 22 hours, but seriously, who needs to work on it like that without being charged? Anyway, 8h is starting to become standard for Windows (for quality models, not the shit for 10 thousand)
The speed of the disk is mostly useless because for video (the only thing where you can read the difference between 600MB and 1600MB) people still have external
Osx is unusable in a corporation, windows x is not perfect, but it has advanced functions that are missing in osx. Osx has nothing that windows lacks. It's not that you can't work on osx, it's ok, but windows and partly linux are also ok.
Connectivity to common ports including modem, touchscreen, stylus...
High-speed wireless dock
Higher performance for the same price
Professionals who don't sit in a cafe all day will reach for the T or X series.
I had your plastic alloy X1 Carbon in my hands and it's a piece of garbage with a poor quality display... btw there is one for sale on nyx for 20k.
The problem with all Windows laptops with 22 hours "last time" is that under load the real endurance is barely 3 hours.
The speed of the disks is useless only for someone who needs to justify the purchase of cheap garbage like the X1 Carbon with a slow SOHO SSD, which is completely unsuitable for work in the enterprise segment.
Don't worry about it, your macbook PRO reminds me of crushed beer cans somewhere near a container
I own both, the corporate Lenovo X1 carbon and the personal MB Air.
X1 Carbon like almost !! 2x!! the more expensive machine lags behind the Air in absolutely everything, i.e. battery life, system stability (I use RHEL 6.7 and Winy), processing, OS speed. But what really brings me to my knees is the X1 display, can someone from Lenovo seriously think that it is comparable to the Air? I don't have to suggest how this laptop would compare to the MB Pro, do I?
how many generations of x1 carbon and what model of mb air do you have? what windows do you have on it?
can you explain what is wrong with the processing of x1 carbon? and does RHEL seem unstable to you? although it probably depends on what you do with it, maybe you could switch to the current 7.3
and I don't think anyone wants to compare it with air, that would be an insult to carbon. air doesn't have security features (probably that's why you don't have it at work, at least that's what I'm assuming based on the rhel), it has poor connectivity, regardless of the possibility of repairs and durability
The Air has the worst displays in the Mac lineup, it's the worst possible choice, and yet it's a far better work tool than the X1 Carbon.
Air is not worth dealing with today, the new Pro is smaller than the old Ait and both weigh the same.
Even in the basic popular version for 47k, Pro is better than Air in everything.
The X1 Carbon is a typical representative of low-quality Windows laptops.
well, the new macbook pro with gaybar is a typical representative of low-quality macOS laptops, they can shake hands :]
Can you Kk tell me which features are missing in macOS compared to W10?
kk missing BSODs, heaps of broken drivers, auto-restart features, MS Crash features, user nas*ting features, Windows slow-down features, spyware and telemetry features, and great MS Windows antivirus, I don't know a better virus magnet than Widle.
Well, I'll give an example from today. I needed to look at our accounting, I'm not an accountant and I don't have it installed on my PC. (but don't count either, it runs on the server). i used application virtualization. i.e. I run the application on the server, but I can see it at my place.
and straight example number 2, I wouldn't scan what I need on canon network multifunction printers, because (although it's a higher network model) don't make drivers for mac/linux (make them only for printing, not for advanced functions of the printer)... but I had to I would put a USB stick in there and scan it on it, and then put it in the mac, which doesn't have a connector for it, so I would have to get a dongle and then I would drag it there.. that would work :)
— that's what I would miss today if I didn't have windows
I would compare osx to windows 10 home edition. enterprise has advanced security and network technologies that osx lacks. I have no doubt that they can partially be replaced by some third-party applications, but we are not talking about osx anymore
then there's some crap like overwhelming support for most applications (it's easy to find something that works on Windows but doesn't work on Macs, and on Macs it's the other way around - unfortunately, these are things that are simply used in companies, it's sad, but people with it has to live and work and that's why every apple user drives a backup copy of Windows), hardware and driver support (although it sometimes happens that the device is a moron and the drivers fail (which is not the fault of MS but of the hardware/driver supplier) - so it's better if there is any at all the possibility is, more than none, support for touch, tablet mode, ePen...
1. Don't you mean the remote desktop? A client for macOS to connect to Windows is normally available. If you really mean virtualization, which virtualization tool is missing from macOS?
2. Coincidentally, we also have a Canon multifunction printer. Not all drivers are really available on the European server, but they are freely available on Canon USA.
So you remembered two things that I immediately refuted. However, I would like to point out that there are indeed specific programs only for Windows, such as Loxone config for setting up home automation. That's why I have Parallels and I'll run it on Windows there in no time. Otherwise, it is possible only to a very limited extent.
I don't mean the distant area
I don't mean a virtualization tool in the sense of parallels, vmware player/workstation, virtual box
I wouldn't say that you refuted something, maybe you didn't understand. the fact that there is generally greater availability of software and drivers on Windows is well known, but I will not argue with you about it, it is pointless
each OS has its own specific software, however, it is generally true that if you work on Windows, you will somehow come to an agreement with other people and sell your work. if you work on osx, then you are using the same windows as you, on virtual. if you find it ok and comfortable to take care of 2 systems instead of one,... for me, call it user friendliness, I don't care ;)
1. You are probably not well informed, all virtualization tools exist on macOS. You can also look at your accounting from macOS.
2. If there is any software that is not for macOS, it will be launched using Parallels in coherence mode, when the icon is on the macOS desktop and you will not even know that the virtual box has started. For gamers, there are Windows drivers for mac, it's called BootCamp, because mac computers are normal PCs on which you can run both macOS and Windows.
Just settle for running everything on a mac. You can't run software only in Windows, which, on the other hand, is only for macOS, and there are a lot of them.
After I switched from Windows to Mac in 20 after 2013 years, I became more efficient at work on the computer, I don't care about drivers, settings and other delay issues. Every time I set up a Windows computer for a colleague, I'm not surprised. Just last week, on a Lenovo laptop with a clean installation of Windows, it was not possible to add a user, in the new W10 Settings menu, even through the control panels, it just stopped after clicking on Add. I had to add them with a command line. Thanks, I really don't want Windows as my main OS for these and other reasons. I am self-denyingly willing to tolerate it only as an emergency to start something special. Nothing more.
1. so please link to no
2. true, but in the frame you have the whole OS with everything, that is, even with security holes if you don't care about it and don't run games on it
the rest is irrelevant, we are talking about OS differences. yes, apple macs are normal PCs on which windows can also be installed, which many mac users do, because for everyday use in life, often osx is simply not enough. if you have it installed on your PC, then you agree to its installation with my statement.
1. Which virtualization tool you use in Windows, send a link to it.
2. According to you, maxOS is not enough for everyday life, but you can't even describe what it lacks.
On the contrary, my normal life on the computer improved significantly after switching to macOS, and so did my colleagues and my wife. It even uses some software that does not exist on Windows, or exists in a very repulsive form. For her, who is not a technician, the transition to macOS was a blessing, and she is not a regular user of just a browser and email client.
1. I said you don't understand https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh826068.aspx
2. see my posts above, but you don't understand them, so it's hard
You have to come to terms with the fact that the days when there was nothing on the mac are over and you have fallen asleep in the development of technology.
http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion.html
https://www.virtualbox.org
https://www.parallels.com/eu/all-products/
https://www.winehq.org
https://www.codeweavers.com/products/crossover-mac/download/
I'm saying you didn't understand. wine and things based on it are the closest, but it's not the same. I need a fountain pen and you fill me with a piece of chalk
Oh, so I'm supposed to pick one specific macOS-only thing that I can't live without and show you how useless Winsows is? No, I won't, although there are dozens of such things, I don't think it's reasonable.
Just accept that everything goes on the mac with the fact that each platform has specialties that no other platform has. However, you can run them in virtualization on a Mac. In windows, however, mcu virtualization does not.
You asked me for an example and I gave you an example of what I needed that particular day. it wasn't an example of something I had to deliberately invent. in fact, when using mac os normally, you just have to have windows installed, otherwise the usability of the computer is about half (if you don't just write texts on it and browse FB), I think that says it all.
Well, that's pretty stupid. According to you, the usability is about halfway, but you can't list what doesn't work on the mac.
you have an agreement like a Mongolian when you ignore the meaning of every other word I write
Please screw that anonymous, he's completely out of line anyway and I bet he's never used a Mac.
I used it for a short time as a student, my girlfriend then took my x60s with Windows 7 and I obediently suffered because I liked her and I told myself that my husband can withstand everything, so why should she have to suffer on her macbook (it was like that at the time nice white plastic, no joke, I liked the HW :), then we reinstalled it on Windows 7, but the x60s was still better, smaller, lighter, trackpoint..)
Jeez, that explains it. You have experience with polycarbonate MacBook with Core 2 duo. But that's 2010, at that time nobody got me on a mac either.
Dear Sir, Today is 2016 and you are discussing with interest under the article about MacBook Pro with TouchBar.
There must be something magical about those MacBooks when they attract die-hard Windows users to discuss them. I wouldn't even think of writing in discussions about Lenovo or Dell how bad their OS is and praising macOS there.
What is your reason for contributing to these discussions?
"polycarbonate MacBook with Core 2 duo"... I liked the HW, there was no problem with that. and as for the contact from the newer osx, yes, I have it, but I no longer own it myself.
I haven't tried the touchbar, but I can imagine what a mess it is, it's quite decent (that is, for me, I can also imagine a lot of people who use it, by such people I mostly imagine someone who can't type in all 10, most of the time controls the computer with a touchpad and doesn't live oh IT – no matter if they call it PRO... like if the new macbooks were simply called macbook, and then they gave the PRO advice with slightly better HW specifications, maybe 150% higher profile, ports that people really need, dedicated decent graphics, I don't think anyone will complain , they could shit on that gaybars)
So let's summarize:
According to your own words, the last time you used a polycarbonate mac with a core 2 duo was from 2010 or earlier.
You cannot list what is missing from the Mac, you only list specific software that can be replaced.
You already liked HW mac from 2010
As a die-hard Windows user, you go around discussing the MacBook Pro to let its users know how it can't be used and Windows is better.
You have a different opinion than the marketers from Apple about how to label their model lines. Specifically, you would not choose the PRO designation.
You haven't tried the TouchBar, but you know better than me, who is writing on it right now that it's rubbish.
When you don't have arguments, you start cursing.
Interestingly…
You forgot one more point, and that is that you are a Mongolian who doesn't understand a lot of what I write, then it will be almost accurate (if we forget the inaccuracies in your summary)
Polycarbonate MacBook with Core2Duo has historically been one of the best laptops I've ever owned, I went through my entire university on it... excellent keyboard, best display of its time... lightweight, long battery life (3x longer than other W XP laptops at the time) .
Ultra quiet and historically one of the most reliable 2.5″ hdd Hitachi, overall the white MacBook was a super quiet device, again there was no similarly quiet Windows laptop, also there was no Windows laptop that had comparable sound output, the white MacBook had better sound than the MBP2013- 2015, the first MacBook to surpass it in years is this year's MBP 2016.
And what still doesn't exist on the Windows platform is a laptop that has at least the same quality touchpad as Macbooks (in general), except for the white MacBook, even though it's a 2009 device, it still has a better touchpad than all the scumbags with Windows.
jesus christ i can't believe my eyes
this is probably the first and last post that I will agree with from you
Although I like macOS, Windows is often much more universal. You can run 3D studio max or visual studio in Parallels, but it is basically at the expense of performance, or you have to have a very, very powerful mac configuration. You just run it in a virtual machine and it always takes its toll. That's why I have boot camp on my MacBook. Virtualizing also means squeezing the battery more. Btw. macOS can also bite a lot :-)
USB-C is a great standard. The MacBook Pro easily charges the MacBook 12′ from the right two connectors, whether connected to a source or just from its batteries. From now on, only one power source and two USB-C cables are enough for our trips.
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It has nothing to do with usb c - you only need a cable and you can also charge from usb 3.1 or from a stronger usb charger (approx. 15w)
Do you know a computer that would have a current greater than 1A at 5V on the USB-A connector? Can you send me its type?
Do you know of a cable that could turn 5V into 20V so that I could charge a MacBook or other computer from the Battery Charging (BC) 1.2 5A 5V port? Please send me a link to it.
In my opinion, there is no such thing. Here the advantage of USB-C is clearly shown, which according to the standard can have either 7.5W, 15W, 60W or 100W and thus power any device, see here:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#Power
Can't it be charged from lions?
I really like this, someone buys a MAC for 60k and doesn't have the money to buy it for 500 :-D. If they had to give everyone 2 cables, it would be a bit unecological, unnecessary and expensive.
The same headphones. I've used the ones from Apple that come with the iPhone with a 3,5" jack about 5 times in my life, and I normally use mine, which don't fit in my ears and have better bass. By the way, I have a bluetooth module for these, and with that I connect wirelessly today (both to MAC and to iPhone).
I definitely agree that right now is a bad time to buy, because it will take a while for everything to transition to the new USB-C and for it to become as convenient and secure as the current version. Anyway, the change is looking good. Connecting all devices to each other using USB will be great.
Alternatively, manufacturers will start expanding their work with wireless use, a lot of things can be done this way today and you don't have to deal with any cabling ;-).
Put on a MAC phone, ha ha :-D. That's what I call practical use. By the way, it can be turned off in the settings (locking with the cover).
it is enough for them to give 1 cable, but advisory, unsized. and it's not that they use the cable in this way, only 30% of the people who buy it need to, it's about the convenience and quality of Apple's services, which simply for the unnecessary money saved some money) ruins the comfort, it takes 30% of the user. and yes, it's a pressure to buy another cable, but it just didn't work that way
"JUST WORKS" sent from apple together with steve
and so I'm also happy for the introduction of USB-C and I'm happy for the fact that now a couple of million fools will suffer with MacBooks for two years and thus force peripheral manufacturers to adopt USB-C and I'll jump on the well-earned and well-run train and I will have a wonderfully smooth transition
Feel free to enjoy your ergonomically unsurpassed Lejnovo X1 Karvon, for that you have all the cables straight from the Chinese... enjoy the internal ssd disk with SATA2 speed, which has no chance to handle the load in the enterprise segment. Enjoy Widle10 with telemetry, spyware, adaware and malware, enjoy the fan noise under load like Romanian Dacia heating, just it works :)
Sir, I am just wondering why you are writing in the discussion about MacBook and not about Lenovo. That MacBook has a magical effect on you.
I have a mac and I discuss under articles about macs. I don't go into discussions about Windows at all.
discussions about lenovo are not so lively, because lenovo doesn't make kokotins and no one complains. Apple, on the other hand, has been doing some shit lately and that's why there's something to write about, that's why :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D91VxfK8h5k
I had AIR with win and it was great, but it was impossible to attach anything to it. Epl really slept for a while. I NEVER want anything from EPLA again. They make fun of people for buying their overpriced stuff
The incomplete usbc cable in the package is all the more bullshit when we take into account that most people who buy a new macbook will have their first experience with usbc, i.e. no cable at home. The inconsistency of the model lines is also crazy, but I find the other points rather exaggerated. A person who pays 100k for a phone with a computer can probably afford to invest in a usb-lightning cable. If we take the opposite scenario that Apple would give a usbc-lightning cable to the new IP, it will be a much bigger problem and confusion for many people. About the headphones. I don't know who of you takes Apple's crap about lightning as a successor to the 3,5mm jack seriously, but it's absolutely obvious that the future, even according to Apple, belongs to wireless, and headphones with lightning distributed to ip are just a low-end option before wireless becomes more available. Although even today relatively decent wireless headphones can be bought for 1300 - 2000, I would not see a problem with that. A person who really can't cope with the current situation has to buy last year's model, which is completely sufficient in terms of performance.
a person who can't cope with that situation can also buy something other than an iPhone or a Mac, there are plenty of good alternatives