Ondrej Holzman In iOS 5, Apple introduced iMessages, which allow sending messages, pictures, videos and contacts between iOS devices over the Internet. Thanks to this, speculation immediately began to grow, whether by chance iMessages would also be available for Mac. Apple didn't show anything like that at WWDC, but the idea isn't bad at all. Let's see how it could all look like…
iMessages are practically classic "messages", but they do not go over the GSM network, but over the Internet. So you pay the operator only for the Internet connection, not for individual SMS, and if you are on WiFi, you pay nothing at all. The service works between all iOS devices, i.e. iPhone, iPod touch and iPad. However, Mac is missing here.
In iOS, iMessages are integrated into the basic messaging app, but compared to classic texting, they bring, for example, real-time sending and reading, as well as the ability to see if the other party is currently texting. Now all that's really missing is the Mac connection. Just imagine - if everyone in the family has a Mac or an iPhone, you communicate with each other via iMessages almost for free.
There has been talk that iMessages could come as part of iChat, to which it bears a striking resemblance, but it sounds more realistic that Apple would create an entirely new app for the Mac that it would offer much like FaceTime on the Mac App Store, charging $1 for it and new computers would already have iMessages pre-installed.
It was this idea that designer Jan-Michael Cart took and created a great concept of how iMessages for Mac could look like. In Cart's video, we see a completely new application that would have real-time notifications, the toolbar would borrow from "Lion's" Mail, and the conversation would look like iChat. Of course, there would be integration across the entire system, iMessages on Mac could connect with FaceTime, etc.
You can watch a video in which everything is precisely described below. In iOS 5, iMessages, as we know from our own experience, work great. In addition, mentions of a possible Mac version were found in the last developer preview of OS X Lion, so we can only hope that Apple will move towards something like that.
Source: macstories.net
Well, if something like that were to happen, I'd probably go crazy with joy. A brilliant idea. Connect iphone to mac and use. Although I have to take advice for the call, but still. SMS luxury.
Bullshit, iMessages only work on devices with a GSM module and iOS 5. So only iPhone 3GS and 4. It is possible that an ID would later be used instead of a phone number, but I don't believe in it, Apple just wants to force people to buy the latest ones devices that support them.
The iPod touch does not have a GSM module, neither does the iPad, so it does not depend on the GSM module at all. In addition, it would be against logic, since the operators could charge money if it went through the GSM module.
I understood that iMessages will also be on the iPad without a sim, so I think it's not tied to GSM only.
Otherwise, I also secretly wish that FaceTime and iMessages were also for Win.. ;)
I don't know why they should work on devices with a gsm module. That's how Face Time works on the Mac. It will also work on a Wi-Fi iPad
Well, in my opinion, it would need a lot more interoperability between iOS and Mac. For the fact that Apple boasts of the unique interconnectedness of devices, the integration is quite weak. For example, I miss: Game Center on Mac, the ability to synchronize progress (savage) in games on Mac and iOS, multiplayer between iOS and Mac, universal apps for both Mac and iOS, push notifications for all applications on Mac (new API), unify iMessages, Face Time and iChat - it's getting messy. Next (I don't know how they will solve it) unify MobileMe, iCloud and Apple ID account.
The simplicity and uniformity of Apple is starting to fall apart in my opinion with new services and features…
I agree - I would welcome these links. And I can think of a couple of other things, of course, from the task, a note...
In iOS5, there are new Reminders (previously only in Mac iCal todo), which, like Notes (in Mail on the Mac), are synchronized via iCloud. So take it for granted.
I don't take it for granted because it's not officially in operation yet and who knows how it will work. I want to have Reminders in both iOS and Mac OS X so it works the same way as contacts. Similarly, there is no Notes application in Mac OS X. The notes are there in the Mail application, but their integration with iOS has never worked perfectly for me, so I don't consider them to be full-fledged.
So what is obvious?
By that, of course, I meant the complete connectivity of app data via iCloud, thanks to the previously missing Reminders(todo) for iOS.
And what will it look like? So far, everything points to the same as in Snow Leopard. I would also prefer the new OSX Reminders app for notes+todo, or everything in iCal.
-integration, interconnectedness: data apps in iCloud, the same data everywhere, wirelessly
-gamecenter maybe one day, it seems like a necessity to you (probably not to a lot of users)
-Universal apps for Mac and iOS are unfeasible (different control, api, the developer will have to pay extra for optimization on Mac)
-push: we have Growl, Apple's own push to Lion is in the works
- you use Apple ID=iCloud on mobileme (I have it verified in iOS5), mobileme will disappear, iCloud will replace it.
-Quite the opposite, with the arrival of Lion and iCloud…
And I hear another iSheep here…
- yes app data wirelessly, but for now only for iOS apps
-no, Game Center is not a must, but what is a must? If I were satisfied with necessity, I would not buy an iPhone and a MacBook, but a netbook for CZK 6000 and an Alligator for pensioners.
-universal apps, of course I didn't mean technically, but in principle -the possibility to pay once for both platforms. Some apps could use it.
-with MobileMe, a NEW Apple ID is also created. And that's the problem. If you first create an Apple ID for purchases and then MobileMe, you're in trouble. You can't change your Apple ID email address on MobileMe in iTunes. It says that this address already works as an Apple ID. It's kept me cool so far, but when MobileMe changes to iCloud I'm going to have problems. I will either lose my purchase history or my MobileMe (iCloud) address.
Well, that's not true for me. Firstly, for example, I managed to get MobileMe working with an already used Apple ID, and secondly, there is an Apple service called My Apple ID where you can manage the services connected to it and connect multiple Apple IDs to each other
iSheep is an artificially created concept by a mass (a large herd) of sheepdogs, anchored in your head. I don't understand how anyone in the minority can be compared to a flock of sheep…
Your opinion, my opinion, discussion. simple.
How can you say :) that the connection is weak (when iCloud is going) and make a gamecenter out of it - an insignificant piece of crap to play with.
For games, I also missed savs at one point - angry birds for Mac. There, it could be solved with iCloud - just a thought.
Try iOS5, ebay: udid (max $5 for one). Lion behind the door and you have multi-platform wireless sync.
Universal apps: I would like it to work like this with payment sometimes between ipad-iphone. understand the position of the developer, he simply needs money if he is to develop the app further. And the mac app store is mainly for some extra income.
No new apple ID will be created with mobileme, or at least not recently. Just because I think so may not be true.
I normally log in to the mobileme website using my single Czech Apple ID.
Same when activating iCloud with the same single apple id- I'm sure.
It looks like you've probably never used MobileMe, so you don't know what you're talking about here - you mean Apple ID, etc. So far, no one knows how Apple will solve this - merging accounts. There are only guesses about it.
Unfortunately, I have and use MobileMe and I cannot change my name in MobileMe. I also can't enter the MoblieMe address as the Apple ID in my OLD account. So now I have two Apple IDs: One that I use (I have a gmail address there) and then I have MobileMe that I can also use as an Apple ID. If MobileMe changes to iCloud, I will have to stop using it willy-nilly and I will have to use a gmail Apple ID (for purchase history).
If anyone knows a way to connect the old Apple ID with MobileMe, I would be glad if you could advise me.
@Drnec: Totally agree, I have a feeling that Apple is now starting to flounder like a fish out of water. I would much more welcome the aforementioned application connection between mac and iOS than a change in the visual page, I think the filter is still unnecessary. Snow Leopard looks and works well.
And I smack myself in the forehead. Apps are up to the developers. You probably haven't heard of iCloud yet? App Link=iCloud…
Apple Apps connection illustrative example: iWork on iOS+Mac+iCloud, iOS calandar+Mac iCal+iCloud...
API, API, API - that's what it's all about. Both iWork and Calendar are applications from Apple. And until it offers developers native support - we won't see anything (at most for "strong" applications)
offered, did you watch the keynote? I mean iCloud api.
@Drnec, Marin: I also agree, but the Apple ID will be unified. Game center would definitely like it. I have already divided the synchronization of the saps and the multiplayer, but for the extension it would require a special API. Push nitifications were discussed at the keynote, so we'll see how it turns out. I just don't see what universal apps are for?? First, the design must look different on Mac and iOS devices, and the API is almost the same, so the port is not complicated at all. And the unification of iMessages, Face Time and iChat, I would really unify a lot, there shouldn't be anything complicated, but only on OS X because it seems fine to me on iOS. And speaking of the connection using iMasage, it would also be good to be able to receive calls and sms on a Mac, Mic has that after all.
it would really like more connectivity: iMessage, face time and mail. a person would have one account to which his phone number, apple ID and email would be linked. then he could choose where and what to send: imessage would be integrated into the Mail application (something like Facebook mail with chat), i.e. when a person has an open chat communication, it looks like a message, if not, it comes to his mail (or e-mail communication would also look "chat-like".
in view of similar operations with number and ID, face time could be integrated there, i.e. the Mail application on the Mac would look like skype upgraded with mail. much more elegant than having 3 separate applications that need to be started.
Face Time laid the foundation stone for such a framework, and if it works, there is no reason to expand and integrate it. Facebook showed that integrating mail and chat is simple, it would be enough to enrich mail with real-time feedback.
the only thing that needs to be done is to allocate an email address to the apple ID, which will happen with the arrival of iCloud. so system-wise it would only be about expanding the face team to email / imessage chat
apple would do best if it were built entirely on the standard xmpp protocol... these proprietary solutions are a bit of shit
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Read this and you'll fall into a laughing coma:
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